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  Lawyer Letter copy to Judicial Committee

  by Gayle in

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  charles, smith & bellah.

  a professionall cof*qp*.t!on.

  attorneys at law .

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  quietlyleaving

  I would definitely recommend taking such action or even just saying you will do so if the need arose.

  In a recent talk - last Sunday actually - the speaker was talking about families and then said somthing about home life that shocked me. He said that if a family member is disfellowshipped "do you show loyalty to Jehovah by not even eating with such a one". In such a serious matter I would expect that he would have at least clarified that if this member lives at home then one would be allowed to eat with them. But he did not do this.

  I think public speakers ought to be given some sort of guidance about thinking carefully about what they say in public talks.
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  Jehovah's Witness accused of raping and sexually assaulting

  by Gayle in

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  http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/aleqm5jblkz23gfxgpwa8bgmnxdafl78tg.

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  quietlyleaving

  well we now know his address and if he ever joined here simon would know who he is this is becoming scary

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  Jehovah's Witness accused of raping and sexually assaulting

  by Gayle in

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  http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/aleqm5jblkz23gfxgpwa8bgmnxdafl78tg.

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  quietlyleaving

  this guy sounds more and more like an xjw gone beserk if this is true

  However, his devotion was cut short by his wife's illness and he never went out knocking on doors with her. Because of her illness the pair stopped attending the Kingdom Hall and became "disassociated" – the term members of the religion use for Witnesses who have lapsed. Mrs Grant was later persuaded to return, but Mr Grant did not join her.

  perhaps he's one of us
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  Which book do you recommend for my next reading?

  by tjlibre in

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  the road less travelled or releasing the bond?

  i already read crisis oc, almost done with in search of cf.

  and of course, im still reading other bible translations.

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  quietlyleaving

  The Sins of Scripture by John Shelby Spong - fantastic eye opener

  In the history of the Western World, the Bible has been a perpetual source of inspiration and guidance for countless Christians. However, this Bible has also left a trail of pain. It is undeniable that the Bible is not always used for good. Sometimes the Bible can seem overtly evil. Sometimes its texts are terrible. Bishop John Shelby Spong boldly approaches those texts that have been used through history to justify the denigration or persecution of others while carrying with them the implied and imposed authority of the claim that they were the "Word of God." As he exposes and challenges what he calls the "terrible texts of the Bible," laying bare the evil done by these texts in the name of God, he also seeks to redeem these texts, hoping to recover their ultimate depth and purpose. Spong looks specifically at texts used to justify homophobia, anti-Semitism, treating women as second-class humans, corporal punishment, and environmental degradation, but he also delivers a new picture of how Christians can use the Bible today. As Spong battles against the way the Bible has been used throughout history, he provides a new framework, introducing people to a proper way to engage this holy book of the Judeo-Christian tradition.
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  Question about evolution

  by Satanus in

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  the oldest examples of species have the mostvarietiy in their genetic makeup.

  for instance, africa is considered to be the cradle of humanity, because the inhabitants have the most genetic diversity.

  my question is, how is this explained.

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  quietlyleaving

  I wonder how a nomadic way of life affects genes in contrast to how a settled way of life does.
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  Which coffee person are you?

  by Newborn in

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  espresso (single or double)?capuccino?latte?latte macchiato?american coffee?coffee with flavour?black coffee with milk or sugar?i am definately a latte person!!

  gotta have one each morning.. i regret we don't have starbucks in sweden.

  /newby.

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  quietlyleaving

  I see what you mean blondie. Over here "amercian coffee" means a cafe lungo/long coffee as opposed to an espresso or double espresso.
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  Which coffee person are you?

  by Newborn in

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  espresso (single or double)?capuccino?latte?latte macchiato?american coffee?coffee with flavour?black coffee with milk or sugar?i am definately a latte person!!

  gotta have one each morning.. i regret we don't have starbucks in sweden.

  /newby.

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  quietlyleaving

  lol blondie

  I always ask for a large decaffeinated americano when I'm out and only drink tea at home. My hubby loves strong coffee and I've just bought him some San Francisco Bay coffee - it smells wonderful but he finds he has to use double the quantity recommended on the packet as he likes his coffee strong.
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  Kinda cool...from Karen Armstrong (former nun) and Archbishop Desmond Tutu

  by greenie in

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  thought this would be nice to share, it really resonated with me:.

  compassion unites the world's faithsby karen armstrong and archbishop desmond tutu, special to cnn

  november 10, 2009 9:18 a.m. estendclickprintinclude google_ad_section_end startclickprintexcludeendclickprintexclude google_ad_section_start content reap keep startclickprintinclude reap startclickprintexclude 'let's revive the golden rule'endclickprintexclude /reap editor's note: karen armstrong is a former roman catholic nun who has written more than 20 books about common themes in islam, judaism and christianity, including "the bible: a biography.

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  quietlyleaving

  thanks for posting this greenie
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  Is the book of Job anti-humanist? Zizek's alternative reading.

  by slimboyfat in

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  the book of job has sometimes been read as an anti-humanist reply to the notion that the creator is a god who takes a personal interest in humanity.. job was stricken with illness and various trials.

  his three "friends" suggested that he must have done something to offend god for these terrible tribulations to have befallen him.

  job protested his innocence.

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  ql I think the book was composed in two parts: the poetic part and the narrative part, and that the poetic part is the more ancient, and more interesting from the point of view of its discussion of the relation between God and man. I wonder if you have heard about or read Karen Armstrong's book The Great Transformation that discusses the sort of rupture in thought around the time of Socrates that you mention.

  Slim

  I agree that the poetic part is much older.

  I read Karen Armstrongs book a couple of years ago and must dig it out again.

  The reason I mention Socartes is because I kinda see a parallel unfolding in the book of Job as that which happened during the time of Socrates. However in Job, God reminds Job of powerful cosmological elements in nature to bring him out his limiting experience of being very ill and depressed. (In Socrates time there was a move away from cosmology to put man at the centre of the world whereas in Job God does the opposite)

  I'm also trying to find a way to synthesize Zizek's interpretation of Job. If I've understood Zizek correctly, he seems to be saying that we shouldn't give weight to a purely ideological reading of Job but should consider that, although as Leo pointed out he knows a great deal more than Job, God himself is aware of unformed powerful forces that are in a state of flux and chaos. And that God is trying to make Job aware of these forces as he knows that Job is very confined and suffering in his predicament but that being aware of the tremendous motion and energy all around us, that one can still act ("gird up your loins please" ) in harmony with or against natural forces like the animals and birds etc seem to do. And do this despite one's limiting human situation and perhaps in doing so see beyond the human.

  edit: by the way is Zizek very humanist?
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  Please Describe Your Autumn

  by compound complex in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  welcome fall!.

  please describe autumn in your community.

  its feel.

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  quietlyleaving

  at the moment, autumn here seems to be filling the air with its dying breath in a final burst of fragrance. There is a strong earthy smell of damp leaves mixed with woody essences.