Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace.
Buddha
thanks to all... your few but kind words all mean the world to me right now......
Cal
yes my father has passed on sunday.... all my family brothers, sister, in-laws are jws .
it is occasions like this that.
make me see why i and countless others are just faders .. not taking that bold step of disassociation .
Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace.
Buddha
thanks to all... your few but kind words all mean the world to me right now......
Cal
yes my father has passed on sunday.... all my family brothers, sister, in-laws are jws .
it is occasions like this that.
make me see why i and countless others are just faders .. not taking that bold step of disassociation .
Thanks to all who have posted above me here who have given me a word of encouragement.
We all need that human understanding , touch and sense of belonging. I guess I am a more emotional
right now with the death of my father but may I please confess right now that while I find a measure
of companionship and understanding on JWS... this disconnect that I feel with my family whom I do deeply in my
heart love anyway I also feel here because I still believe in an almighty God but realize that the vast majority do not !
I'm not trying to create some sort of guilt trip ...just telling you my true heartfelt feelings.... It seems that at this moment
I have a need to share this thought ... sorry !!!
with a sense of inward loneliness
Caliber
yes my father has passed on sunday.... all my family brothers, sister, in-laws are jws .
it is occasions like this that.
make me see why i and countless others are just faders .. not taking that bold step of disassociation .
Yes my father has passed on Sunday.... all my family brothers, sister, in-laws are JWs . It is occasions like this that
make me see why I and countless others are just faders .. not taking that bold step of disassociation . There is
was a sense of peace and bonding ( inborn family bond) with my mother brothers and sisters which the WT....
ruling could take away from me should I speak out too boldly.. I can not lose this connection least while my
mother is alive...true and natural family love runs very deep !
We gathered at mom s house it was still a wonderful connection with my family and past love and closeness
The love is still there it's just buried under the religious hold that is present !
moved with mixed feelings of love , pain and hurt
Caliber
i thought i have relatively had everything figured out, like life, death, god does he exist or does he not.
is the bible make believe?.
can we really be sure that it is inspired, after all we were not around to see the process being done.
Non one can prove if God exist or not through the logic.
But it is not intellectually honest to say that "belief in God has inflicted grievous harm to society". Maybe this ha been caused by the "God" created by our own mind and used for our dirty purposes (ie. control other people).
But the values of Christian religion and other religions have improved societies during the course of the story.
When someone is prejudiced one is able only to see only the part of the truth he want to see. (Partial quote from net)
Actually the perception that faith in God caused grieve to humanity is a bit silly. Pride, Arogance, Self righteousness and the like there of was what caused the harm to humanity
Caliber
Here is a quote that helps us understand that emotion comes from within ones own mind
The first step is to notice when we indulge such afflictive emotions and remember that they are the cause of suffering. We should investigate how they are the cause of suffering. In the case of anger and hatred, for example, we should consider that these emotions are not caused by the actions and words of others, but by our own minds. If someone else had the power to put anger into our minds, they would have the power to do so consistently and to whatever degree they would like. However, we have all had the experience of suddenly not being bothered by some consistent action of another that usually really gets to us, or one day being really bothered by something that we hardly noticed before. This is proof that these emotions are a product of our own minds and not the result of someone else’s words or deeds.
http://www.webspawner.com/users/crss/dharma1011affli.html
eliminating common behavioral negativities -like fear, shame, guilt, arrogance, envy, jealousy, greed, phobia and many others like that- is considered to be one of the easiest and most powerful tools of self-improvement, which also nurtures innate nature of a person by eliminating 'negative attitude and pessimistic thinking' from the core of psyche
Caliber
every group seeks to explain itself... to find acceptance and belief... they want others to.
identify with them whether for new members or for acceptance in a larger community group !.
(some thoughts and rules listed from another webb site source ).
Every group seeks to explain itself... to find acceptance and belief... they want others to
identify with them whether for new members or for acceptance in a larger community group !
(some thoughts and rules listed from another webb site source )
But these thought are so true..... are they not ? We may only see the other guy as pushing HIS
belief system on US... do you not agree ?... thoughts please !!!
Caliber
when people are super bubbly/friendly/cheery, or constantly smiling ear-to-ear when the situation doesn't call for it, i immediately suspect they are either phonies, trying to sell me something, or suffering from bipolar mania.
that is not really very fair of me, but that's what springs to mind.. i hate nervous giggling too.
it completely grates on my nerves.
Bubbly personalities are okay. Rather that than inflamed ovaries
Now there's something that's timely enough, unique enough to make me laugh and smile !!!!!
"show some pearlies" tee hee hee !!!!!!! ~~~Cal
when people are super bubbly/friendly/cheery, or constantly smiling ear-to-ear when the situation doesn't call for it, i immediately suspect they are either phonies, trying to sell me something, or suffering from bipolar mania.
that is not really very fair of me, but that's what springs to mind.. i hate nervous giggling too.
it completely grates on my nerves.
rebel8,
When working in a restaurant I used to get in trouble for not showing my teeth in the dining room. I walked around with my Mona Lisa smile, which is quite natural for me, and that wasn't enough. I had to fake an Osmond smile in order to keep my job. I wonder if the men were expected to do the same.
I feel just like you I'm not into showing a toothy smile very often.. sincerity must be natural ... normal functioning
people see no need or desire for constant smiling.
Cal
so, the local jw troops have stepped up my study because i have had a difficult time swallowing the "truth", and have sent a ms to speed things along.
he mentioned satan tempting eve, and i said i had never read that.
sure, so there is a serpent tempting eve in genesis 3, but no satan.
Reniaa,
John 8:44 (New International Version)
44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
This for me confirms Jesus knew satan/devil was the one who was the man slayer from the beginning and john's words in revelation also confirm this viewpoint. I think there can be no other logical reasoning to have on this.
So if you don't think Satan is the original serpent how do you explain it?
Reniaa your point made here is a plain as a nose on a face ... unless one wants to augue that black is white .....good point
Caliber
mine goes back to may of 1955.. i was 17 months old.. my mother went into labor with the last of her 13 children, and i remember pitching a fit because the midwife wouldn't let me into her room.. how about you?.
sylvia.
I remember sitting around a camp fire and listening to Methusaleh tell old man jokes. I swear I am not making this up
Man..... some of the people on this board are even older than I thought !!!!!..........
Cal