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  Hats off, hats on.. Hat tipping...head covering

  by caliber in

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  many women even on jwd have complained about the hat or head covering rule (wt) with regard to teaching men etc.. well how about the reverse ...i was once asked to remove my hat at a service arrangement i simply forgot i had it on !.

  still isn't all this hat etiquette of human tradition ?.

  hats are tipped, (or doffed) slightly lifting the hat off your forehead, when meeting a lady (remove your hat if you stop to talk), or to "say" to anyone, male or female thank you, excuse me, hello, goodbye, youre welcome or how do you do.

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  caliber

  Here's another article on hat manners origin

  It's a matter of history.. The "tipping" or removal of a hat is said to have originated from the same place as the military salute. Knights would lift the visor (face guard) on their helm, showing their face as a sign of respect and their empty hand as an indication they meant no harm. This tradition evolved into the modern military salute. Similarly, the removal of a helm (helmet) or other headgear indoors and as a sign of respect or reverence is said to have originated before the Dark Ages. This tradition was carried on throughout the centuries by men of arms (soldiers) and nobility, as well as their staff, servants and slaves. After the Dark Ages, manners and etiquette grew to become an essential part of everyday life and the conventions of hat etiquette became ingrained in civilized culture

  PORTIONS EXCERPTED FROM THE "COWBOY CHRONICLE" & THE ESSENTIAL HANDBOOK OF VICTORIAN ETIQUETTE

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  Hats off, hats on.. Hat tipping...head covering

  by caliber in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  many women even on jwd have complained about the hat or head covering rule (wt) with regard to teaching men etc.. well how about the reverse ...i was once asked to remove my hat at a service arrangement i simply forgot i had it on !.

  still isn't all this hat etiquette of human tradition ?.

  hats are tipped, (or doffed) slightly lifting the hat off your forehead, when meeting a lady (remove your hat if you stop to talk), or to "say" to anyone, male or female thank you, excuse me, hello, goodbye, youre welcome or how do you do.

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  caliber

  Many women even on JWD have complained about the hat or head covering rule (WT) with regard to teaching men etc.

  Well how about the reverse ...I was once asked to remove my hat at a service arrangement I simply forgot I had it on !

  Still isn't all this hat etiquette of human tradition ?

  Hats are tipped, (or doffed) slightly lifting the hat off your forehead, when meeting a lady (remove your hat if you stop to talk), or to "say" to anyone, male or female – thank you, excuse me, hello, goodbye, you’re welcome or how do you do.

  Tipping of the hat is a conventional gesture of politeness. This hat tipping custom has the same origin as military saluting, which came from the raising of medieval Knights face visors to show friendliness.

  Hats are worn less now, but at the turn of the 20 th century, all adults wore hats whenever they left the house. It was a matter of good personal hygiene, since hats were a protection from industrial dirt.

  Hats are removed when inside, except for places that are akin to public streets, like lobbies, corridors, and crowded elevators (non-residential). In a public building (where there are no apartments) the elevator is considered a public area.

  Hats are removed for the National Anthem, passing of the Flag and funeral processions, outdoor weddings, dedications, and photographs

  In places of worship coverings are required for both men and women in Muslim mosques, and Sikh temples.

  Men are required to cover their heads in Jewish synagogues, but only married women wear hats or scarves representing a display of her increased modesty towards those other than the woman's husband.

  It is acceptable for women to wear hats in Christian churches, (it was once required, but the custom has all but disappeared) but disrespectful for men to wear them

  So the hat custom is inconsistent across religious and national custom lines is it not ? Your thoughts please .

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  My Avatar and yours

  by LockedChaos in

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  just curious .

  any symbolism or meaning to your avatar choice?

  mine is actually a gif .

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  caliber

  It's just me

  nineteen and 83

  tee hee hee !

  I always use my photos in far background or with sunglasses to remain incognito

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  Who does this quote remind you of?

  by ldrnomo in

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  "informed decision-making comes from a long tradition of guessing and then blaming others for inadequate results"--scott adams

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  You must have been around January 1 1976 eh ?
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  Have you Made Closer Friends on JWD than you had as a Witness ?

  by flipper in

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  2. friends

  just a question i thought i'd put out there.

  interested in your comments.

  my wife and i are going to the airport this afternoon to pick up mincan, later on thursday to pick up jk , for the tahoe apostafest .

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  it all depends on how much effort you put into it, and how much of yourself you risk exposing about yourself to others. Honesty breeds solid friendships. With a dose of humility.

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  I have lost [mostly I hope] those prejudices and fears of those who think or act differently than I do. I have become accepting of differences as a positive.

  I am by nature a cautious person, but in the above to quotes I see so much more freedom to strive for , trust involves risk.

  " WT. think," has taught us that believing the exactly same things, is what makes for unity and trust.. the sure thing so to speak ....

  may we overcome this one last fallacy ( well at least in my case)

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  ******* Are you much healthier, now that you're out? *******

  by FlyingHighNow in

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  much, much healthier.

  being a jw takes it's toll on people's physical and mental health.

  jw's are always sick.

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  caliber

  Quester55

  I love Jehovah and Jesus, but I DO NOT have any use whatsoever for the opinions of humans.

  Salvation is a free gift, no amount of field service, meeting attendance or comments at meetings is going to get a person saved. Salvation is free. We cannot earn it.

  I see that all the JW's care about is making a quota of hours, placing magazines

  These three thoughts I believe show the strength of you mental health, your physical and emotional health must simply follow !

  You are away ahead in the game ! These are fairly simply truths but most all of us have been blinded by time, circumstances

  and that bright shiny hope, at one time or other .

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  how many insiders?

  by agent zero in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hi everyone, i'm new here, been viewing the board for a while, decided to join yesterday.. so i'm about 95% convinced now the wts is bogus, but i'm still in coz as yall know leaving is the hardest part.

  i plan on doing a fade to avoid the complete disconnection, but first want to gradually help my gf to see things too.

  in the meantime, i'm just wondering how many of you are still "active" jdubs?

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  caliber

  Hey agent zero,

  Welcome aboard, you're about the third one I've seen join in two days... things are really looking up .....

  the more the merrier I say ! Everyone has good input, a new angle or perspective, it's great to see !

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  Newbies - How are you Benefiting from the Supportive Discussion on JWD ?

  by flipper in

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  2. friends

  so - i thought i'd put this question out there for the newbies here.

  how are you benefiting from the supportive discussion you are partaking in here on jwd ?

  do you see a different sense of freedom of speech which you can partake in - as opposed to being under " information control " as a jehovah's witness and only being allowed to talk about subjects that are previously arranged for you to discuss ?

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  Burn,

  Are you old enough to remember the old commerical.... let it be Dicey ... Dicey or nothing ? hee hee hee

  Now back to topic... A door mat saying.... All are visitors make us happy, some by coming ..some by leaving !

  We must always pick and choose but the benefits always outweigh the negatives

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  Does it Bother You that It's An American Cult?

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  especially if you are not american, but anyone.. justhuman mentioned it being an american cult in his latest thread.. (by the way, go there and support him, he can use it.).

  does it disturb you europeans, africans, ozzies, etc.

  that the jw cult.

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  caliber

  The issue of religious freedom has played a significant role in the history of the United States and the remainder of North America. Europeans came to America to escape religious oppression and forced beliefs by such state-affiliated Christian churches as the Roman Catholic Church and the Church of England. That civil unrest fueled the desire of America’s forefathers to establish the organization of a country in which the separation of church and state, and the freedom to practice one’s faith without fear of persecution, was guaranteed. That guarantee was enshrined in the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution as, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...”

  The splintering of Christianity resulted in more than 900 denominations of that faith currently existing in the United States, of which the vast majority of Americans are members. The U.S. was the first western nation to be founded predominately by Protestants — not Roman Catholics. That fact alone expresses America’s willingness to experiment with the novel and a defiance of tradition. Its history includes the emergence of utopian societies, religious fanaticism, and the opening of the door to such eastern religions as Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, and Taoism. Such has been the winding road of religious evolution in America

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  Quite simply it was bound to happen in the USA ... more freedom allows for both positive and negative growth.

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  I just can't pick up my pieces and continue with my life...

  by justhuman in

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  2. friends

  i'm feeling so down lately my psycology has reached to the bottom.

  sometimes i wish i never been born.

  looking back my life all there is left is pain.

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  caliber

  Surround yourself with what you love, whether it's family, pets, keepsakes, music, plants, hobbies, whatever. - George Carlin

  In compassion lies the worlds's true strength ... Buddha

  Passion and Compassion seek with vigor these driving forces !

  One thought I've learned is what they call "vertical living"....

  living in the present moment not "horizontal living " looking back at out life or pressing

  too hard into the future, dealing with now, enjoying now ! Like what is printed on many

  maps ...you are here ! Passion and compassion in the here and now WILL WORK !

  Caliber