Posts by iwasblind

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My Dad wants to study with me

by BlackWolf in

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so my parents continue to pester me about getting baptized.

the other day my dad told me that i was old enough to make a decision, and was wondering why i wasn't ready (assembly is in a few weeks) so i told him calmly that i have many doubts and if i were to get baptized it has to be 100 percent my idea.

he was a little annoyed by this, and now wants to study the "is there a creator that cares about you" book (which is complete bs) with me.

iwasblind

Hi Blackwolf

Their teaching is so far removed from scripture if you stick to the bible you might convert him.

Here is what I would do:

Take the study but only as a "bible" study not a book study
Make you Dad answer everything from the scriptures but make him read the whole context of each scripture when he does - most times the scripture is misapplied and unravels when you read the chapter.
Only ask bible questions - there is a bunch of questions you could answer to not get his "apostate" radar activated.
Also see if he would help you research other religions, there are some vids on people escaping the brethren that really could get him thinking about the JW's.
Start reading the greek scriptures from another translation - that will be the "reason" you are asking questions.

Here are some don'ts:

Stay away from bashing the GB - he will just get defensive
Stay away from stupid doctrine like the FDS - they will never see it. Keep to bible translation and scriptures about Jesus.

I am sure more learned people here could supply you with questions, but PM me if you want mine.

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I am glad to have found the true religion

by A Believer in

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it really is great.

i remember browsing this forum the day after i had joined it, and their was a knock on the door.

i thought it was one of my package from ups but instead it was two sisters.

iwasblind

Hi A Believer I hope you have a Greek / Hebrew Interlinear handy. If not check out www.biblehub.com

The reason I left was purely scriptural - so I am hoping you are a keen student of the scriptures.

I have about 50+ other bible questions, I will return if you can answer them scripturally. Here are some thing I hope you can answer for me.

1 - Col 1:17 according to the greek is a total mistranslation. It misrepresents Jesus totally and looks like the NWT has been changed to fit in with doctrine. Can you help me understand why it has been translated that way?

2 - If you look at every use of Jehovah in the Greek scriptures, can you explain why the society has added Jehovah to 70+ scriptures when they were not a direct quotation from the Hebrew? This is exactly what they accuse the other religions of doing by taking his name out.

3 - Search for "obeisance" in your bible app. Can you explain why the exact same greek word is translated obeisance when it comes to Jesus - but worship when it comes to God?

I did a thorough study of my scriptures as a witness - I sourced my information straight from the bible not any "apostate" sites. I could do this all day long.

My feeling is if you are a sincere worshipper of God you will want to find out these answers. Happy to provide more questions. Happy for you to PM me also.

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Mexico branch......Now closing!!!

by krismalone in

a circuit overseer friend of mine serving in latin america called me today to say hi.

i asked him what's new and he dropped the news that they have received notification that the branch in mexico will be closing!!

this branch also called the central american branch (although located in mexico) oversees all of mexico's 800,000+ publishers plus all 7 countries of central america of over 100,000 publishers.

iwasblind

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Honest Questions About Child Abuse

by Richard Oliver in

i have two honest questions for everyone here.

i understand that most here want retribution from the courts against watchtower for child abuse allegations.

but let us take away the instances where someone was accused of child abuse and then later put back into a position of authority, such as an elder or an ms. let us just take the cases where a regular publisher or even an appointed person, with no previous accusation of child abuse has come up against that person.

iwasblind

Hi Richard, many are trying to change the laws. Have you seen the ARC, I think this will have a big effect.

However why should not the WT pay for their gross mismanagement of warning people of pedophiles in the congregation. I have known many affected by the lack of transparency - this has led to multiple serial offences when it could have been prevented simply by showing logic and the correct love.

For example, elders are not permitted to warn the parents of children if a pedophile moves into the congregation. These people may need help but why are they allowed to assocaite with the children and fuel their problem?

It was blatently obvious in the ARC that not only are their procedures flawed, but they don't give a stuff about their own people. Every other religion is being forced to pay for and help the victims, why should the WT be exempt.

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Fading or Disassociating

by Saethydd in

hello, i'm new here.. i'm a college student who has been raised in the "truth" for my entire life.

i was baptized at 10 years old, and looking back now i know i didn't fully grasp everything involved, for one thing i don't even recall ever going to jehovah in a special prayer to dedicate myself to him, but anyway that's the past and my focus is really on the present.

i'm currently pursuing an associates degree, but i find myself desiring to pursue a bachelors in my chosen field so that i may have a somewhat more secure future.

iwasblind

Hi Saethydd

I am always so excited when I hear about young people waking up, especially knowing they are going to college and getting an education.

Congratulations, it is a big journey and it sounds like you have just started. You will be amazed how deep the programming is with this religion.

We chose the fading route due to family and also being well known in a city. It also has it's challenges and you still face the "family crap" even when you are not DF'd. Regardless for us I still feel it is better not to be treated like a leper because we have such a big family.

All the best with your journey.

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AUSTRALIA: Jehovah's Witness Malcolm Lee guilty of raping 80-year-old-woman

by jwleaks in

friday 16, december 2016. abc news: malcolm lee, 56, has been sentenced to three years, nine months jail for the attack on the woman, 80, at her home near lakes entrance in march.

during a home massage, organised as a gift by the victim's daughter, lee touched, kissed and digitally raped the woman.

he claimed he believed at the time it was consensual and she was enjoying it.

iwasblind

Hang on was there 2 witnesses to this? He could be innocent ;-)

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Disassociation - shunning - can we all lobby Government that it is against freedom of religion?

by stockholm_Syndrome in

if jws want to inflict shunning on members who want to remain -- knock yourselves out.

but if someone wants to leave - dont believe in an evil almighty god, bible ...or just dont agree with the rules- they should be free to leave- even after being 'disfellowshipped'.

i think it was pre 1980 that you could disassociate yourself without shunning repercussions.

iwasblind

Hey Stockholm, forget about the articles, go and get the elders manual from the ARC site, it is there in the evidence as a full download. It will tell you everything you need to know.

You can also find some WT letters to the elders on some sites that direct no man can be appointed if they are in touch with their DF'd children.

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the future for the borg

by pepperheart in

it look very possible that the borg could lose their charity status in both the uk and oz if this happens the jw will not have all the tax breaks for the buildings that they have now.and that the headquarters will have to start finding extra money.and as they have done so much cost cutting anyway these past years i think they will have to start selling kingdom halls off.

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iwasblind

The persecution has arrived - head for the bunker :-)

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God's word-the publications?

by notalone in

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okay, so i have a friend that still interacts with my family.

she is going through some difficult times, so i suggested she just read some of psalms.

she became a little agitated and said she would just listen to the mags.

iwasblind

No I have not heard this, but I know when I have quoted scripture and asked for an explanation, that I may as well be quoting from a fashion magazine.

They also seem to quote "scripture" that is not there now. My mum confuses watchtower terminology with scripture all the time. Also they are using scriptures less now in the articles and resorted to quoting just a few words from a scripture.

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Angry and scared

by BlackWolf in

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i feel like everything that comes out of my mothers mouth is something negative and cringe worthy.

all she seems to talk about with me is how terrible and demonic our disfellowshipped relatives are, how horrible the world and holidays are, or how she is so much better and "holier than thou".

it really makes me sick sometimes.

iwasblind

Blackwolf, you are 18 and have so much life ahead of you. Take the opportunity of youth and set yourself up. There are so many great things to experience out in the "bad" ole world. They want to make you feel like you have no options but believe me you being awake at this age is wonderful. You are very fortunate not to lose your early years to this thing. Even if you don't want to get a degree - educate yourself in ways of money and investing, learn to work hard and learn. Please don't get baptized, live your life and become the best person you can be. PM me anytime you want to chat.