one of my mates ignored me for a while because they started a rumor that he was trying to be with me. He was older and had just been appointed elder. my friend told me to leave him alone and he had to be an example now that he was an elder. then we started talking again but not until i got pissed off at him and told him to cut the crap.
Ever noticed that some couples were like ashamed of being together? cause some sorry sister said comments like 'you can do better' or 'does he have any spiritual goals. he's not a pioneer.'
i think all the gossips make young bros and sis keep a lot of relationship secret, meeting in secret, doing what they shouldn't be doing and later getting dfed for it.
that's how i experienced it at least ;)
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Trying to date in the organization...gossipers ruining relationships
by B_Deserter injehovah's witnesses are some of the worst gossipers i've ever encountered, especially when it comes to the dating habits of those in the congregation.
but, that's not really a surprise to most of us.
this story, however, makes me just shake my head and wonder why this guy doesn't question stuff.. there's a sister in my brother's hall that recently got a divorce.
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What "Unwritten Rules" Did Your Congregation Have?
by minimus ini knew of a hall that allowed only white shirted speakers on the platform for sunday public talks!
when a visiting speaker did not wear the official white shirt he was either told that he couldn't give the talk or he could change shirts,as the hall kept a variety of sizes, just in case of an emergency!!!
i don't make this up.
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in italy--no black shirts for the brothers....;reminds people of fascism ( some elder's idiosyncrasy even though he was NOT italian)
in new york:
Afros were discouraged as it reflected the whole 'going natural trend' of a few years back...
an african brother was refused to do his part for the school because he hadn't worn western clothing.
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all kidding aside though for a split second seeing those images a thought flashed in my mind and it was " god what if it does happen, i'll be one of those people destroyed by a rock in my head"
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hahahaha deacon you're at it again!!good i missed 'em!
some replies have me in stitches...
and yeah that does look like raymond franz.
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How Long Were You In Spiritual "No--Man's Land"???
by minimus inwhen you started understanding that the "truth" wasn't all that it was cracked up to be, how long did it take for you to get mentally and/or physically out??
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everytime i missed a couple of meetings i began to doubt......but then went back and thought my gosh the things satan puts in your head when you're out even just a little bit..........then miss again...then go...for about 4 years before they finally said STAY OUT!!! LOL THANKS WTB&TS...i just couldn't make that decision on my own.
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How bad can it get?
by TooBad TooSad inat the watchtower study sunday a comment was made that "we must stop focusing our efforts and energies.
on this old dying system and focus our energies on life in paradise so near at hand.
were many nodding heads in full agreement with this tid bit of insanity.
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"When I think back in time when I had family studies with my children and wife, and I was an elder, I often thought that something just doesn't feel right about what I believe. When a visting Bethel elder told me in confidence some of the things that were taking place in Bethel (in the 80's) I guess that was the beginning of my desire to learn more of what was really going on in Brooklyn. Once you begin to learn the truth about the truth you can not stop learning as you see your believe system unravel, your hopes for the "very near future" go up in flames, and the wasted years and marred childhood from being a JW pass before your eyes. It is painful and yet it feels good to be free or almost free."
i totally understand what you mean!!! that's how most of us feel i think. i didn't think you were head of a family, i thought you still were at home with mom and dad!!lol.
i felt that something wasn't right too but i had no information to back that feeling so i thought it was just me.
one of the replies was to 'not feel superior because we were in that situation' and while i agree with you, i just can't believe that i'm a 1 in a million that wouldn't have shunned my friends if they ever got out, only one of them talks to me now...and i feel llike she's a 1 in a million too.
we were all jehovah's witnesses and we all thought the same but i feel that everyone still came into the religion with their own personality. did i start feeling ill because i resisted the brainwashing so to speak? or is their a common denominator among most recruits that make them good material for this religion?
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How bad can it get?
by TooBad TooSad inat the watchtower study sunday a comment was made that "we must stop focusing our efforts and energies.
on this old dying system and focus our energies on life in paradise so near at hand.
were many nodding heads in full agreement with this tid bit of insanity.
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if the meetings make you physically ill you should try by all means to fade out.
i developped panic attacks while a JW because of the insanity i felt of all i was hearing and that was going on. I told one of my friend in the hall " why do i feel brainwashed?" and she replied cause you probably are.....very odd indeed that she would say that.
but anyways just before leaving i started developing an anxiety disorder feeling dizzy and sweating during the talks especially when it regarded persecution.
now i have to make special efforts to not let anxiety take over where before it was something i didnt' suffer from.
i may have been so affected because i believed in it so much. where it seems you don't at all. But i would still say that your having to put up with this poisons your mind because you have to waste precious time parading and teaching people something that is untrue and dangerous. That plays on your conscience and acts adversely on your psyche.
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Experiences of bethelites from around the world
by ldrnomo init would be nice to hear from former bethelites from around the world.
there stories while they were at bethel good or bad..
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Mixed Race Couples - WTS literature
by TheListener inhas anyone ever seen a mixed race couple shown in paradise in the wts literature?.
i haven't.
i've seen pictures of modern day mixed race couples but never ever in paradise..
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our race is meek and teachable?? is that what i'm really reading? i'm better at sports than academic studies. I have good rhythm. I have an unusual sexual appettite (or did i still that stereotype from the jews?) i am meek. i am teachable. because i am coloured. that is actually the thought of a lot of brothers in the french congregation in america and italy because we mostly preached to africans. In italy At each assembly a brother had to give a speacial part telling the brothers why they can't use the informal form of speech with Africans while speaking politely to white italians. why they couldn't shout out to them HEY MOHAMMED or ALI BABA (when his real name was not those of course)or HEY MY FRIEND giving them a big ol' tap on the shoulder. Why they couldn't assume any person of colour was automatically african even if they said they were american or british or french. they felt they didn't have to jump through hoops to preach to africans. they just had to use the intellectually insulting speech of the require brochure and that's it. When the householder was not convinced he was ridiculed and behind his back called an 'intellectual' who let his italian university education get to his head. They were so condescending to africans in the territorry i was embarassed to walk around with them and insult these people with whom i share a common background.
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Mixed Race Couples - WTS literature
by TheListener inhas anyone ever seen a mixed race couple shown in paradise in the wts literature?.
i haven't.
i've seen pictures of modern day mixed race couples but never ever in paradise..
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oooooh well one good thing came out of seeing this post--->the ad for 'mixed chicks hair products' at the top of the page.totally checking that out later!
Question From Reader: oh dear governing body. what is the society's position on curly, kinky, afro, frizzy hair?
Answer: any spiritually minded person knows that the only case in which one of jehovah's followers may sport a negro *coughs*....colored *coughs* ....ethnic hairstyle is if you are an elderly sister with a bad perm.*
as we can see in verse 106 through 118 of 5th letter of the corinthians: '......white.........................is.....right'.
*don't mean to disrespect but i felt like elderly sisters could have the craziest haircolor or style and never got taken aside for the little 'we don't want to reflect the world' chat.