Posts by freeme

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Tell me about the weirdos in your congro.

by karter in

we had a guy who used to bang on about natural remedies.. at the doors and meetings he would tell everyone what was wrong with them and what to take to remedy it he even told the brothers of for sell coke at the assemblies.. however there was know remedy for his mental health apart from that he was a fat little porker who looked like you could grow spuds on his teeth and washing wasnt big on his agenda last i heard he joined scientology.. we had 4 sisters in the congro pregnant one nut case confessed to the elders he was father to all of them.. one sister used to attack the po's wife in the kh then stand up through the meeting and abuse at the speaker after that they would call the sike team it wasnt uncommon for her to go door to door at midnight.. last i heard she became a counsellor..

freeme

No one took any notice of her and she became a rebel so didn't become a JW.

rebels and nonjws always lie. *sighs

plus when you are not in perfect standing, pioneer and reading all the magazines burning all your freetime (aka "a happy brainwashed drone") all your arguments against the wt are also not true.

basically youve to be a believing and practicising JW to have the right to doubt anything. since no doubting person will happily spend all his/her time in this stuff for a long time this is impossible. and i guess even though you do all this there is a way to criticize you as a person, which is the best weapon against the truth. attack the person who says it.

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Jehovah's Witnesses more likely to be swindled by quack medicine and conmen

by B_Deserter in

we all know how every congregation has that elders wife who takes it upon herself to be the hall's resident doctor quinn: medicine woman.

they are constantly pushing herbal supplements and natural medicines at the very least, and at times even getting a little "spiritistic" with some of the crazier quack devices out there.

do i think they're stupid?

freeme

THATS SO TRUE!

jws wont ask! thats why they do anything when someone tells them its good. jws in my direct surrounding are all homeopathy cracks (and dont know anything about it - for them its just "natural meds".) and some of them do some weired stuff with a device very similar to that scientology device. one of them runs a practice for it! they are excited of it.

i personally think that this stuff made me think in the first place. im a critical person and always was. my sense of bogus in such stuff made me some day questioning my believe too. the whole time before some fear deep inside of me held me back from questioning my believe system. thank god, i didnt calm myself down forever.

edit: yeah that eye thing is big too here. and other stuff too. one elder did one thing over and over again until it came to light that the "doctor" is a "spiritist". i dont remember what it was but he drove like 400km for it (248 miles).

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April study wt - unbelievable mind control!!

by breakingfree in

has anyone else had a browse of the new study watchtower for april?

what then are valueless things?

thus their words were "a valueless thing.

freeme

ive to add...

this article is just so seeded by openly ironical stuff... especially the last one...

Elders do not go beyound the things that are written in the Bible. And by extension, they do not go beyond the Bible-based counsel written in the publications of the faithful and discreet slave.

its so ironic i really think its possible that there is someone in the writing department who tries to wake some drones up by write extra-uber-special-BS which is perfectly in sync with jw doctrine at the same time.

nothing can be wrong when it comes to glorifying the FDS (except by calling them god or jesus directly... at least i couldnt believe more than 50% of jws would swallow it).

sometimes i think the raymond franz incident may be just the first brick that fell apart only. more bricks and huge stones may follow. but maybe its just me... me starting to regocnize the BS in the articles not believing that others can swallow it anymore... but i have to face it that i did it once too...

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April study wt - unbelievable mind control!!

by breakingfree in

has anyone else had a browse of the new study watchtower for april?

what then are valueless things?

thus their words were "a valueless thing.

freeme

its always the same trick. take a scripture, apply it correctly and then twist the application to mean something that is sometimes the opposite.

you had a fine example in your post:

[Scripture] 1 John 4:1 -> [correct application] " ...to test what they have been taught by comparing it with the Bible. That is a good rule for us too." -> [stealthed twisting] everything that is critical to the JW religion, critical to the FDS is not what the bible tells.

the same circular reasoning could use ANY religion. but on the outside it sounds intelligent: "nice scripture, we should testing our faith. thats great! thats what i expect of the truth!", but in reality its an attempt to stop thinking.

its horrible. my wife falls exactly to this reasoning everytime.

its the same stuff with the encouragement of a bible study. its very nice to hear that one should read in the bible daily. should study it. but... in reality its not a bible study, but a FDS publication study with a bible on the side. even if you read the bible as a whole (which is at least the finest idea of the fds) youre supposed to have a fds publication there when you have any questions what a particular scripture means.

its crazy.

BREAKINGFREE: i really enjoyed your post. your thoughts, reasoning just could be mine. thank you! im just exactly mad at this stuff like you.

freeme

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Tell me about the weirdos in your congro.

by karter in

we had a guy who used to bang on about natural remedies.. at the doors and meetings he would tell everyone what was wrong with them and what to take to remedy it he even told the brothers of for sell coke at the assemblies.. however there was know remedy for his mental health apart from that he was a fat little porker who looked like you could grow spuds on his teeth and washing wasnt big on his agenda last i heard he joined scientology.. we had 4 sisters in the congro pregnant one nut case confessed to the elders he was father to all of them.. one sister used to attack the po's wife in the kh then stand up through the meeting and abuse at the speaker after that they would call the sike team it wasnt uncommon for her to go door to door at midnight.. last i heard she became a counsellor..

freeme

i forgot a weirdo:

a guy who played the keyboard in our "band" had a power struggle with a elder once. elder said song xxx from the platform, but the guy said its not xxx but yyy and that the band wasnt prepared for xxx. After some debate the elder insisted on xxx trying to use his power saying its not the guys choice which song will be played. After all the keyboard player suddenly stood up, took his wife and stuff and left the kingdom hall while the rest of the congregation stood their with their songbooks in the hands.

so it played from cd. lol.

oh i remember another one :-D

an secretary elder who was a strong ruler. everyone needed to follow his commands. if something anywhere was wrong he was the first on ground zero to make it worst. he really ruled the congregation. when he died everything got better. (in his non jw past he was a criminal who was fast with his fists...). sometimes he threw out talks from the kingdom ministry and inserted his own ones telling the congregation how important it is to follow his commandments :D :D on one occasion he used a reallife example from a conflict between my mum and him WITH names FROM THE PLATFORM :D

another one from my mums congregation:

there was another ruler elder and this one was extreme. he tested the congregation regulary whether they are obeying the organization and one at least one occastion he told them to bring a bucket and a carrot to the next meeting. and most of the jws did... but he was disfellowshipped like 15 years later for something.

wow, the weirdos just rolling in lol :) if you think about it there are plenty of them in every congregation i guess.

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Tell me about the weirdos in your congro.

by karter in

we had a guy who used to bang on about natural remedies.. at the doors and meetings he would tell everyone what was wrong with them and what to take to remedy it he even told the brothers of for sell coke at the assemblies.. however there was know remedy for his mental health apart from that he was a fat little porker who looked like you could grow spuds on his teeth and washing wasnt big on his agenda last i heard he joined scientology.. we had 4 sisters in the congro pregnant one nut case confessed to the elders he was father to all of them.. one sister used to attack the po's wife in the kh then stand up through the meeting and abuse at the speaker after that they would call the sike team it wasnt uncommon for her to go door to door at midnight.. last i heard she became a counsellor..

freeme

When I started attending meetings to get reinstated I was sitting in the back of the hall. He got up in the middle of the meeting, walked by me and threw a songbook in the seat beside me. I opened it and saw where I had written my name in it over 10 years before.

really creepy!!! but, hey, maybe he just found it somewhere in the cong and gave it back to you lol :D

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Tell me about the weirdos in your congro.

by karter in

we had a guy who used to bang on about natural remedies.. at the doors and meetings he would tell everyone what was wrong with them and what to take to remedy it he even told the brothers of for sell coke at the assemblies.. however there was know remedy for his mental health apart from that he was a fat little porker who looked like you could grow spuds on his teeth and washing wasnt big on his agenda last i heard he joined scientology.. we had 4 sisters in the congro pregnant one nut case confessed to the elders he was father to all of them.. one sister used to attack the po's wife in the kh then stand up through the meeting and abuse at the speaker after that they would call the sike team it wasnt uncommon for her to go door to door at midnight.. last i heard she became a counsellor..

freeme

- crazy sister who yells at you loudly on a great distance with "helloooooo brother/sister xy" on a public place or subway. Sometimes she freaks out and runs NAKED through her neighborhood too. no joke.

- drinking pioneer sister who gives 5min answer on the wt study and sometimes tells crazy things while answering

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Is the Watchtower loosing it's grip on the membership??

by isnrblog in

it seems that many jehovah's witnesses are not so sure about "the truth".

from this and other website/discussion groups and from my own experience a lot of witnesses are having major doubts, but seem to be hanging in the organization, probably because of the disfellowshipping thing.

i hope the bethelite that came up with that got a big bonus.. .

freeme

this much info has a downside. jws (and i was) are trained that much critics and "lies" about the society is proof that it is the truth. lol. its the a fulfillment of 1st century prophecy, ya know?

i remember being disgusted from apostate sites at first (and some of them are really crazy...) and saw the anger some ppl have as a proof that im right and i dont need to look further into such stupid stuff.

for me it took the time until i developed my own doubts AND found the courage to really search whether im alone with this doubts. forums were my idea and i was right.

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apostates outside assemblys ,i was told not to even look, did any of you

by looloo in

jw
friends

ever want to speak to them , i was only a study but i thought it very odd and judgemental to not even look at them and i used to think what are they so scared of if they have the truth , i did not buy the satan stuff about them at all , cult , was what sprung to mind and started my doubts

freeme

i remember some assemblies where "apostates" handed out small sheets of paper to the home going witnesses. i was a teenager and i remember my mom telling me "dont take one, these are apostates!". on the same assembly was a (small inserted) talk about the danger of those apostates outside and that we shouldnt even look at them. i remember viewing them as vicious enemies and i got incredible angry about them inside for no real reason - i didnt know anything about them. i just couldnt help myself that some ppl are so evil, that they directly attack jehovah. my only relief was that this probably is a sin against the holy ghost so they wont get a resurrection.

i feel ashame.

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How can we be sure Jehovah is using the WTS?

by Doug Mason in

on pages 638 and 639 of its october 15 1954 watchtower, the organization answered the following question:.

how does jehovahs spirit help the faithful and discreet slave arrive at the truth of a matter?

the society does not claim infallibility or inspiration.

freeme

the article basically says "were all wrong on everything but were the only ones preaching it everywhere and everyone who has other ideas does not create a society more successful as we. so we have the truth! ah, and we always change our doctrine when someone tells us that something is wrong with it."

thats the main critic you hear when you say the WTS is not from god today: "you say the WTS is wrong, so wheres your society with millions of ppl preaching your ideas? oh, you dont have one? too bad!" i wonder whether thats why russel started it?!