Posts by tula

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My JW Experience

by BBOARD in

the stress in the day to day scenario for a jehovah witnesses trying to live their life through the wtbts is the same that cause them to work harder until they either work even harder, fade away, or suffer a mental breakdown.

fear of reproof or divine punishment from jehovah, not love for jesus, grips their day to day activities as they feel they must fulfill their duties of preaching and attending meeting.

many who came into the organization in the 90s; came in due to the friendliness of the people and not the reality of the cult.

tula

wow. insightful post. so glad to know you are able to see more clearly these days.

welcome to the board. excellent post.

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All call for "the happiness crowd"!

by changeling in

jw
friends

all are welcome to join.

all you have to do is be happy and positive.

you must honestly want to spread your happiness infectiously throughout the world.. you must try to wear a smile most of the time.. you must listen compassionately and give good hugs.. i does not matter if you are not currently feeling happy, but you must promise to summon the feeling from within yourself.

tula

I've something in my pocket

It belongs across my face

I keep it very close at hand

in a most convient place.

I'm sure you wouldn't guess it

If you guessed a long, long while

So I'll take it out and put it on

it's a great big Brownie smile.

That's a song for all of you who missed out on joining Brownies and Girl Scouts.

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water to wine---trick revealed

by tula in

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friends

an ethnobotanist in santa cruz, california, thinks jesus was munching magic mushrooms at the last supper.

clark heinrich says man has enjoyed the psychedelic effects of mushrooms since thousands of years before christ -- and figured the king of kings probably turned on as well.

in fact, he thinks jesus was high on a psychedelic 'shroom known as "fly agaric" which was hailed for its taste as well as its trips.

tula

This could give "memorial" a whole new meaning!

And a whole new MENU!

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water to wine---trick revealed

by tula in

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friends

an ethnobotanist in santa cruz, california, thinks jesus was munching magic mushrooms at the last supper.

clark heinrich says man has enjoyed the psychedelic effects of mushrooms since thousands of years before christ -- and figured the king of kings probably turned on as well.

in fact, he thinks jesus was high on a psychedelic 'shroom known as "fly agaric" which was hailed for its taste as well as its trips.

tula

An ethnobotanist in Santa Cruz, California, thinks Jesus was munching magic mushrooms at the Last Supper. Clark Heinrich says man has enjoyed the psychedelic effects of mushrooms since thousands of years before Christ -- and figured the King of Kings probably turned on as well.

In fact, he thinks Jesus was high on a psychedelic 'shroom known as "fly agaric" which was hailed for its taste as well as its trips.

Heinrich says the mushroom resembles pita bread and when soaked with water it feels exactly like human skin. He figures that's the bread that Jesus was referring to at the last supper when he said "eat this bread, this is my body."

But that's not the only way Jesus might have doled out psychedelics. Heinrich says people who eat lots of shrooms have a reddish-orange urine that's even more hallucinogenic -- and figures the almighty turned water into wine by whizzing into a five-gallon jug of H20.

Heinrich is the author of a new book, "Magic Mushrooms In Religion And Alchemy"

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one in one out...odds of staying married...how long til you know?

by oompa in

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friends

it has been sadly interesting to see fadingeld's and others experiences unfold...wife out the door pronto and some not.

many here are still married, one in one out.

i have basically had a sucessful unplanned fade.

tula

If the real truth were not so important to you, you would not be on this journey. If your heart was not one of a true seeker, you could content yourself to live the lie.

If you really do have the quest for truth as a common bond, then it should surface.

But I think the betrayl of the holy union of matrimony....to rat on you to someone who is interferring in your marriage, dashing its vows to smithereens, to usurp your authority and give your power to someone who should have no say in your private life.....well, that's just kind of hard to swallow.

If she comes out of this with you, it will have been a hard lesson learned for the both of you.

She has already failed the loyalty test. But will you give her the chance to redeem herself?

Some marriages may become stronger for the hardships faced together. But some go the opposite.

I have a family member who is cult member. Her husband was too. Neither were born-ins. One day her husband could no longer stomach the interferrence and possibly other things he knew as well. His cranky wife turned him in for something. He packed up and left. Went way far away (another state). (This was all over that stupid religion...not another woman, or another man, or money problems, or in-laws, or things "normal" people have disagreements over.) After about a year they got back together. She is still involved with the cult. He is not. She told me the marriage will never be the same. She lost her faith and trust in him. But as Jehovah "hates a divorcing" they remain together. It's been over 20 something years now. She makes a good living and does not need him for financial security. They pretty much go their separate ways. Jobs out of town, on the road, ... they don't have to be together daily. Maybe see each other every other week-end or so.

To me, it's a sad way to live. They just seem to take it in stride....living like roommates. I think the bitterness is deep but well hidden. They are polite and cordial to one another. They may even have some fairly good times when friends come for a get together. Secretly I think she has some sort of martyr complex now.

The most you can do is to try to free her. But if she does not want to be free.... there may be a time you will have to go the road alone.

I hope not. We all need a companion and helpmate. But if the prerequisites of loyalty, trust and privacy are missing...that's not a very strong relationship.

I hope you two can salvage things. But get yourself straight first. Get stronger yourself and then maybe you will have more influence.

The watchtower society undermines marriages!

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tired of being an apostate

by Hortensia in

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friends

i'm tired of being an apostate, atheist, agnostic, take your pick.

i was going to start calling myself a heretic, but then i decided to look up apostate in the thesaurus.

look at all the lovely words we have to choose from:.

tula

yeah, heretic hortensia. here! here! A real HOT lady.

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What is the holy spirit? (according to JW)

by Scotty_was_taken in

hey guys.

just wondering what you guys believe the holy spirit is, according to you jw beliefs.

more questions may come depending on answers provided.. thank you for your time :).

tula

John 20:

22 And with that he breathed on them and said, "Receive the Holy Spirit.

23 If you forgive anyone his sins, they are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven."

(one of the gifts of the spirit is discernment)

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JW's banned by secular Moslem government in Tajikistan

by Gopher in

news reports have announced this ban in a former soviet republic in central asia.

the government is secular, and the vast majority of the population is sunni muslim.

there are about 85 registered religions in tajikistan, but apparently jw's are the only one perceived to be preaching against the military.

tula

Thank you for bringing that "GOOD NEWS" to our doorstep.

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History channel show on antichrist uses witness dating techniques!

by mkr32208 in

i flipped to this show on history while i was doing my homework.

it was on in the background i was half listening to it then at one point they started talking about dates and end times prophecy.

they said that the israelites were released from bondage in 539 and using the dates in daniel we come up to some date in the early 40's.

tula

Boy howdy! You sure had me fooled!

When you said "witness dating techniques", I thought this was going to be a thread about courting.

I was wondering if JWs had unique pick up lines....

or strict and formal rules about chaperones ...

I was expecting to hear about some bizarre maneuvers. I am disappointed.

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UPDATE

by FadingELD in

i would like to think everyone for thier the support through my famalies trying times.

well things did not turn out the way i was hoping it would have so far.

my wife has not come home as of yet and has no plans to.

tula

did you have any warning that they were going to df you on thurs.? What kind of letter did they read? Was it from the JC? A letter from your wife? I am not trying to be nosy. I am facing some similar matter and your answers would help. Thanks you.

I am really sorry that your family is so broken up over this. It must hurt deeply. It's a hard decision to make and a noble one to dig for the real truth and make it a priority in your life. It is the only way you can grow and develop as a really spiritual person. Life is a precious gift and to live it in dishonesty would be an affront to your creator and a lack of appreciation for your own life. Am sorry your wife has chosen to be left behind. It is a clear violation to me that 'what god has joined together the watchtower has put asunder'. I hope she will come to her senses before its too late and irrepairable damage to the relationship. I am sorry your mom got sick over this...but don't let her put a guilt trip on you.

Thank you for joining us. I am sure there are many who need your help and advice. It always works both ways.