one in one out...odds of staying married...how long til you know?

by oompa 36 Replies latest jw friends

  • oompa
    oompa

    It has been sadly interesting to see Fadingeld's and others experiences unfold...wife out the door pronto and some not. Many here are still married, one in one out. I have basically had a sucessful unplanned fade. I dont even know when a fade really starts, but I guess since I havent been in service for 14 months, or hardly any meetings for awhile, mine may be done.

    What really concerns me, other than my wife turning me in for being here, is that we had a just a few things in common, but mainly "the truth." One big cord of the three is now missing, at least for me. What a difference that makes. I can already tell this one in one out thing could get old fast. How do you cope with it? Are you just going to hope for the matewakeup? For how long? I so want to really live now, and am gettin used to this idea of old age and death............oompa

  • BrentR
    BrentR

    Keeping a marriage going is tough enough that I could not imagine a one in/one out scenario. Although my dad has been out for 35 years and still married to my mom for 45. So it can be done.

  • Vernon Williams
    Vernon Williams

    your wrote:

    "I really want to live, now..."

    Hey, bro that is a big improvement over a month ago when we were all worried over you.

    Now, with progress like that....anything is possible....

    Yours in this Struggle,

    V

  • Highlander
    Highlander

    Being married to a j-dub sucks. My wife is having an affair with jehovah, while waiting for me to become bird food.

  • Black Sheep
    Black Sheep

    I'm a bit different. Born in, never baptised.

    I introduced my wife to the cult then drifted out after the 75 debacle.

    I still thought that they might have 'The Truth'.

    It wasn't until a few days before I joined JWD that I realised I had been duped.

    Life has been tough since then as my first mistake was attacking the WT.

    Now my tactics are...

    Never say anything that can be refuted using twisted WT reasoning.

    Say things that must be refuted dishonestly.

    Later, show her a WT article showing that she has been dishonest.

    Tell her stories about cognitive dissonance in my youth that relate to Watchtowers that she hasn't received yet.

    Always bring her attention to cultish behaviour in other mind control groups when they are exposed on TV.

    It hasn't worked yet.

    I am still hopeful that her Anglican upbringing will help to keep our marriage together.

    When she has been cornered on a doctrine she has used Anglican doctrine as a backstop.

    I am treading a very thin line at all times.


    Cheers

    Chris

  • tula
    tula

    If the real truth were not so important to you, you would not be on this journey. If your heart was not one of a true seeker, you could content yourself to live the lie.

    If you really do have the quest for truth as a common bond, then it should surface.

    But I think the betrayl of the holy union of matrimony....to rat on you to someone who is interferring in your marriage, dashing its vows to smithereens, to usurp your authority and give your power to someone who should have no say in your private life.....well, that's just kind of hard to swallow.

    If she comes out of this with you, it will have been a hard lesson learned for the both of you.

    She has already failed the loyalty test. But will you give her the chance to redeem herself?

    Some marriages may become stronger for the hardships faced together. But some go the opposite.

    I have a family member who is cult member. Her husband was too. Neither were born-ins. One day her husband could no longer stomach the interferrence and possibly other things he knew as well. His cranky wife turned him in for something. He packed up and left. Went way far away (another state). (This was all over that stupid religion...not another woman, or another man, or money problems, or in-laws, or things "normal" people have disagreements over.) After about a year they got back together. She is still involved with the cult. He is not. She told me the marriage will never be the same. She lost her faith and trust in him. But as Jehovah "hates a divorcing" they remain together. It's been over 20 something years now. She makes a good living and does not need him for financial security. They pretty much go their separate ways. Jobs out of town, on the road, ... they don't have to be together daily. Maybe see each other every other week-end or so.

    To me, it's a sad way to live. They just seem to take it in stride....living like roommates. I think the bitterness is deep but well hidden. They are polite and cordial to one another. They may even have some fairly good times when friends come for a get together. Secretly I think she has some sort of martyr complex now.

    The most you can do is to try to free her. But if she does not want to be free.... there may be a time you will have to go the road alone.

    I hope not. We all need a companion and helpmate. But if the prerequisites of loyalty, trust and privacy are missing...that's not a very strong relationship.

    I hope you two can salvage things. But get yourself straight first. Get stronger yourself and then maybe you will have more influence.

    The watchtower society undermines marriages!

  • Highlander
    Highlander
    living like roommates.

    Sounds like my marriage.

  • Gopher
    Gopher
    I so want to really live now

    Oompa, I really hope you can! I've never been in a "believer/unbeliever marriage" except for a brief period before my first marriage ended. I can only imagine what you're going through.

    But really how many religions preach the three-fold cord like JW's do? The main reason they pull that text into their literature is to enforce loyalty to their organization. In JW-land, marriage isn't for 2 but for 3. Mister, missus and the organization (which represents "Jehovah").

    So now that you're not united in Watchtowerism, it's really down to you 2. And even that 2-some sounds like it's unraveling.

    So "how long till you know"? You'll know. Perhaps you already do.

  • wha happened?
    wha happened?

    Wife and I are both fading. So far so good

  • Save My Soul
    Save My Soul

    I love my wife a great deal. Even though we were witnesses when we married 15+ years ago, we made a special oath. We would NEVER allow the organization to come into our marriage. Meaning, never tell the elders a thing, we would work out any problems, even adultry. If you stop being a witnesses, the guilt will initially set in at first, then depression.

    Remember, the WT does not define who u are. Keep living and enjoy your life. it is hard, but you must go on. I have faded away. My wife is active with the children, but I miss assemblies and even the memorial. I sat down with my wife and explained my problems with the religion, she accepts this.

    I have never cheated or immediately became a bad person. I study with her and the children even more now, than before.

    Having a relationship with Jesus that I never had in the WT is truly liberating!!!

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