Posts by oompa

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Confusion on what to believe, also guilt.

by izzysma in

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i was raised a witness up until i was 16, never was baptized, and now that i have my own child now i am having a really hard time with wanting her to know what religion is.

as i have gotten older, wiser i am doubting the truth even more...actually i never doubted it until just a few years ago.

being a witness is the only religion i know so i still have that sense of loyalty to it even though it's not what i choose to be.

oompa

Welcome Izzy!......this place is a good start to finding your way and answers to questions........we just about all have things in common as far as religion and your topic esp.

you: I am scared to learn another religion just because I was brought up that if you did that, thats the ultimate sin that is unforgivable.

me: I would start with this point......Why are you scared and what of??.........you are not officially a JW....so you have more freedom than if baptized...and.....it is not "wrong" to learn about other religions.....even WT has a book called "mankinds search for god" and that is what it tries to do, so you have every right to check out other religions, but i agree that spirituality is personal, and most religions just try to help you become more so........and why do you feel a desire to "learn another religion"......you can learn without joining btw

good luck on your quest.....for me......i decided no religion matters anymore as i know for a fact NOBODY can truly answer the big questions......Why are we here, where are we going.....the dead aint talking......nor is anyone in any spirit realm if there is one............oompa

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This Disturbs Me Most of All

by cameo-d in

no, it's not the "claw hand"!

what disturbs me most of all is the potter's shards.. any coin collector will tell you that the "imperfect" coins are the most valuable.

any art historian will tell you that the value of a painting is it's originality and uniqueness and the talent that can only come with time, suffering, and perserverence.. it is the oddities and quirks in one of a kind pieces that make them a delight and a treasure.. so why is it that this potter has no appreciation for uniqueness?

oompa

This reminds me though......i have not been to a toga party since my senior year in high school........and i need one.......

wait.......i just remembered that i did a toga dinner night on a Costa cruise a few years ago......but it was not wild and crazy dammit.........oompa

those guys just need a keg, some weed.......and hot chicks.....

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Hubby's Doubts...

by cognac in

well, after reading mr. flippers thread yesturday about stephen hassan, i decided i would like to talk to hubby about cults in general to see what would happen.

i knew we couldn't go to this site because his walls would go up.

http://www.geocities.com/rick_g22/cults/cults1b.html.

oompa

Thanks Bonnzo and Cognac......girl i tried reasoning in every possible way......simple questions at first that just hinted at doubts.......but later...things ALWAYS wound up ugly...even email questions where she could take her time doing research.......i would send or give her articles with questions she SHOULD have or want to know......but NOTHING in her mind is willing to question...

nor does she even want to.....i knew things had to change for my own mental health and to save our marriage.....this kinda hit me when after argument 2245 she screamed and with a huge swing slapped the hell out of me twice.......i kinda liked it as i knew that would really eat at her as that is just not her.....anyhoo......all the lies they teach as truth make me want to scream and hit something to.......so i had to let it go in many ways......i still vent here and to those that understand, but no more to fam and friends that just dont want to hear it......too little too late for the most part......we have decided to make this marriage work by accepting that each of us will never change......it is not a normal marriage, but i hope doable........

..it is like she LIKES the blindfold on (blue pill red pill thingy), and i see why from her great "friendships" standpoint.....she/i have (had) great friends......these are (were) fun and nice people......but they are pretty much glad i am outta site/mind now

replacing total social structure at any age can be frightening..........oompa

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This Disturbs Me Most of All

by cameo-d in

no, it's not the "claw hand"!

what disturbs me most of all is the potter's shards.. any coin collector will tell you that the "imperfect" coins are the most valuable.

any art historian will tell you that the value of a painting is it's originality and uniqueness and the talent that can only come with time, suffering, and perserverence.. it is the oddities and quirks in one of a kind pieces that make them a delight and a treasure.. so why is it that this potter has no appreciation for uniqueness?

oompa

renny: I'm 100% certain that even if all the gb asked it of us now we wouldn't do it, it is too ingrained in our whole identity that we do not kill,

lmao....dubs would rape, pillage, and plunder......just like gods people did in times past.....oompa

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Gems from the new book: Bearing Thorough Witness About Gods Kingdom

by truthseeker in

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some interesting snippets from the new publication which discusses the book of acts.

bearing thorough witness about gods kingdom.

page 119. today, christ uses the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.

oompa

you have long to live.....maybe do it one point at at time........lol.........oompa

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1975 coverup! Compare the '68 and '81 Truth book scans

by JimmyPage in

the wt society pointed to 1975 as the date for the end of the world.

when the date came and went they changed their publications to remove themselves from the fiasco.

need proof?

oompa

what really really sucks.....is i just now remembered i looked at look magazine back then.......ya....i was young......but damm........oompa

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Hubby's Doubts...

by cognac in

well, after reading mr. flippers thread yesturday about stephen hassan, i decided i would like to talk to hubby about cults in general to see what would happen.

i knew we couldn't go to this site because his walls would go up.

http://www.geocities.com/rick_g22/cults/cults1b.html.

oompa

i pretty much now hate everyone here with even .001 % reasonable jw mates..........oompa

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What Freedoms Do You Enjoy That You Couldn't As A Witness?

by minimus in

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as jws, we were in bondage to the organization, its rules and its whims.

now, we do not have to follow their direction and believe that whatever we were being told was by "theocratic" arrangement.. so, what freedoms do you have now that you have been liberated?.

oompa

now that i am "worldly" yet still the "head" of my marriage to JW........i now get to have sex in a couple of places i never got to before....(and i aint talkin about in a boat, on the hood of the car)........LMAO!!!!........................oompa

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 07-12-09 WT Study (DAY NEAR)

by blondie in

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(b) pressing on to maturity requires effort in what two areas?

(read hebrews 5:14.

2:10) moreover, their perceptive powers are trained through use--through application of what they know--helping them to distinguish right from wrong.

oompa

Re the first few paragraphs and the Christians "fleeing" Jerusalem......i researched this historic event once and found that NOBODY recorded it....not even Josephus......he mentioned a few other groups leaving Jerusalem....but no exodus of christians

more glaringly is the absence of it being mentioned in the Bible!!!!..........geeze if jesus said a prophecy in person....and it was then fulfilled a few decades later within the first century christian congregation.......well hells bells doncha think that would be deserve a BIG mention in the bible??.....at least by John who lived a long time after supposed "fleeing" of christians..........

anybody found anything on this..........and thanks blondie.............oompa

BTW..........Eusebius lived from 263-339!!........WT acts like he saw this exit from jerusalem first hand!!...........he was not even born until about 100 years later and was not considered credible by many...but a nutjob............why no firsthand accounts???

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Have you ever made the elders get so mad at you?

by asilentone in

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oompa

YES....esp if you steal their thunder...........at ANY JC......tell them very early and often that they NEED to DF you!!.......drives them nuts!!....cause then not only is it not their idea, but they almost NEVER want to be told what to do by a sinful pub!!!..........They have just lost control and trust me.......it frustrates the hell out of them..........oompa