im with burns on this one of course.........i was thinkin that if you only fractionally penetrate any oriface...........it is not a sin.......oompa
but you could still ejaculate in my book........that is not a sin....
it occurred to me that by introducing the concept of accepting blood fractions as being a conscience matter, the society has established a precedent for the disposing of other unfounded teachings.. consider, for example, birthdays:.
on your birthday it is allowable to eat cake.
it is allowable to light a candle or candles.
im with burns on this one of course.........i was thinkin that if you only fractionally penetrate any oriface...........it is not a sin.......oompa
but you could still ejaculate in my book........that is not a sin....
well - i today i had the opportunity to tell my wife i no longer believe in the things that i have spent my life immersed in and that i didn't want my life run by 9 geriatrics in brooklyn.. her reaction was understandable her first questions was "what have you been reading"?.
i didn't mention this site but told her i was shocked by something i heard regarding the wts's ngo status with the un, dissapointed by the new light on the generation and disturbed by the flip flopping on blood fractions.
i explained how these things were at best hypocritical and at worst have meant some people have lost their lives unnecessarily because of the societies previous position.
read your post...but none others yet.......i flukkin hate you!!!.........damm you are lucky to even have such a conversation.........oompa
cause i have some really cool old jw friends and it is a weekend riding camping trip in the great smokey mountains...........and that should be fun right?............ya.........except......
these cool old friends were going to let my dfd son ride with us and camp and all........but then some of their dub family wanted to come, and some other dubs who dont even know my son........and even though he was great friends with some of these guys kids... who wanted to come just to camp...........well..........they would not come if my son comes............ you can not beleive how sad this makes me....it hurts....i dont even want to go now but i do understand these nuts and i do like my old friends......my dfd son even said to still go because he understands why his lifelong best friend (just reinstated!!!!
) will not go if he goes......he seems way cooler about it than me.................... this kind of painful conflict is going to kill me early......i wish me and my son could move far far far far far away....oompa.
amen betterdaze!..........and both of us are on that page....if we can can have that success you speak of of, and get some friends to think for themselves.......it is all worth it..........oompa
i hope it gives you hell, i hope it gives you hell.
i hope it gives you hell, i hope it gives you hell.
i hope it gives you hell, i hope it gives you hell.
hey that is pretty bold!........but it would not link......it says "embedding disabled by request"...............but all in all it is prob too rad for most here.................go a little more minor or pianissimo................oompa
cause i have some really cool old jw friends and it is a weekend riding camping trip in the great smokey mountains...........and that should be fun right?............ya.........except......
these cool old friends were going to let my dfd son ride with us and camp and all........but then some of their dub family wanted to come, and some other dubs who dont even know my son........and even though he was great friends with some of these guys kids... who wanted to come just to camp...........well..........they would not come if my son comes............ you can not beleive how sad this makes me....it hurts....i dont even want to go now but i do understand these nuts and i do like my old friends......my dfd son even said to still go because he understands why his lifelong best friend (just reinstated!!!!
) will not go if he goes......he seems way cooler about it than me.................... this kind of painful conflict is going to kill me early......i wish me and my son could move far far far far far away....oompa.
robdar.........i am sorry you would "rip your heart out if your dad did that to me"............thankfully that is not how my son feels......
and journey-on........i am gladly "using the excuse" to make me feel better about leaving my son behind....but it does not work........i hate it.....i will feel bad about him not being there......but we are more than father and son now......way more.......we are part of this supersmall club of awakened dubs who get it......and apparently many here do not get that.......if you want to talk to my son or me....it can happen........just pm me....oompa
and thanks all for your input...........it has really taught me a lot.......
there is only one timeframe that matters to a jehovah's witness: the present.. "so what if we taught that in 1993?
this is our present truth!.
jehovah's witnesses are being conditioned to think that the organization's history is unimportant, "the way jehovah is blessing the work now proves that this is his organization".. here's a question: if you were born into a catholic family in 1922, lived 70 years and died in 1992, what is your current standing before jehovah according to jw doctrine?
like carfax is stoopid too..........who would not want to know the history of a car they buy?..........but jw history does not matter??............oompa
cause i have some really cool old jw friends and it is a weekend riding camping trip in the great smokey mountains...........and that should be fun right?............ya.........except......
these cool old friends were going to let my dfd son ride with us and camp and all........but then some of their dub family wanted to come, and some other dubs who dont even know my son........and even though he was great friends with some of these guys kids... who wanted to come just to camp...........well..........they would not come if my son comes............ you can not beleive how sad this makes me....it hurts....i dont even want to go now but i do understand these nuts and i do like my old friends......my dfd son even said to still go because he understands why his lifelong best friend (just reinstated!!!!
) will not go if he goes......he seems way cooler about it than me.................... this kind of painful conflict is going to kill me early......i wish me and my son could move far far far far far away....oompa.
the way i am treating my son does not bother me AT ALL robdar..........geeze you have no idea how close we are........where did you get that?............post it so i dont have to go back and reread all i posted please..........oompa
cause i have some really cool old jw friends and it is a weekend riding camping trip in the great smokey mountains...........and that should be fun right?............ya.........except......
these cool old friends were going to let my dfd son ride with us and camp and all........but then some of their dub family wanted to come, and some other dubs who dont even know my son........and even though he was great friends with some of these guys kids... who wanted to come just to camp...........well..........they would not come if my son comes............ you can not beleive how sad this makes me....it hurts....i dont even want to go now but i do understand these nuts and i do like my old friends......my dfd son even said to still go because he understands why his lifelong best friend (just reinstated!!!!
) will not go if he goes......he seems way cooler about it than me.................... this kind of painful conflict is going to kill me early......i wish me and my son could move far far far far far away....oompa.
satanus.....and others..............have none of you guys ever tried to get some of your friends or fam out???........i am damm close with one...........and have hopes for some of the others.....
me and my son are very close and are both on board with the whole thing.......he was WAY more cool about it than me bty........and ya.....he would love it if i get get his bloodbrother friend to wake up.........oomps
frankly......i can not believe how so many think in such a tiny box........cmon guys.....grow a bit
cause i have some really cool old jw friends and it is a weekend riding camping trip in the great smokey mountains...........and that should be fun right?............ya.........except......
these cool old friends were going to let my dfd son ride with us and camp and all........but then some of their dub family wanted to come, and some other dubs who dont even know my son........and even though he was great friends with some of these guys kids... who wanted to come just to camp...........well..........they would not come if my son comes............ you can not beleive how sad this makes me....it hurts....i dont even want to go now but i do understand these nuts and i do like my old friends......my dfd son even said to still go because he understands why his lifelong best friend (just reinstated!!!!
) will not go if he goes......he seems way cooler about it than me.................... this kind of painful conflict is going to kill me early......i wish me and my son could move far far far far far away....oompa.
lmao.......no hun....i am not shunning him!..........he and i will hurt but will survive and nooooooo........i am NOT leaving him at home!...lol.....he does not live at home........he will be having a blast with his/our friends at the beach.....and prob gettin some serious poontang he would not get on this bike ride.......
you robdar........need to be less dramatic and consider there are MANY things you just dont have a clue about....(but why the "you are not surpised thingy?....ya that hurt even though you dont know me)
and yes sue.....it is that son and he has not only been making serious ammends........he is turning his life around.....and ya....i help that
cause i have some really cool old jw friends and it is a weekend riding camping trip in the great smokey mountains...........and that should be fun right?............ya.........except......
these cool old friends were going to let my dfd son ride with us and camp and all........but then some of their dub family wanted to come, and some other dubs who dont even know my son........and even though he was great friends with some of these guys kids... who wanted to come just to camp...........well..........they would not come if my son comes............ you can not beleive how sad this makes me....it hurts....i dont even want to go now but i do understand these nuts and i do like my old friends......my dfd son even said to still go because he understands why his lifelong best friend (just reinstated!!!!
) will not go if he goes......he seems way cooler about it than me.................... this kind of painful conflict is going to kill me early......i wish me and my son could move far far far far far away....oompa.
ahhhhhh........it feel so good to be around non-judgemental people!.....kinda not..........oompa
we gotta open up to the fact that there are many different paths to our own life...as well as ways to help others think for themselves............