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  can you really ever fade with immediate family still in?

  by oompa in

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  i am beginning to think not....elders still want to call on me rather than befriend me in any way.....and with a "good" wife and son and parents in, it seems like i still have one foot in only because of the overlap with my other "free" self........it is hard to really feel free in this situation, and is still have desire to just run the fluck away.....which would mean pretty much giving up my family in nearly every respect.

  some here really miss their family and wife, others so love the freedom they seem able to move on and start fresh....as you know, i dont seem to have the balls for that, and at this point in my life the price seems to high to fully start over........it is the "one in one out limbo dance"......oompa.

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  outlaw...you were carryin a 12 gauge shot gun...right???.........oompa

  of course they would not bother you again!!!
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  can you really ever fade with immediate family still in?

  by oompa in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am beginning to think not....elders still want to call on me rather than befriend me in any way.....and with a "good" wife and son and parents in, it seems like i still have one foot in only because of the overlap with my other "free" self........it is hard to really feel free in this situation, and is still have desire to just run the fluck away.....which would mean pretty much giving up my family in nearly every respect.

  some here really miss their family and wife, others so love the freedom they seem able to move on and start fresh....as you know, i dont seem to have the balls for that, and at this point in my life the price seems to high to fully start over........it is the "one in one out limbo dance"......oompa.

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  Thanks guys...but i can not respond to all flipper style right now......but undercover....you are a bit out of the loop.....i had not been to a meeting for a long time, but went a very few including the last memorial after missing the one before that which is a deathnell.....so then all hell broke lose since i was a ragin apostate for a couple of years......

  i have been VERY clear i will never go back to any meeting again....including to my elders/thought were/friends.....so ya to wife and son too.....they know for sure........i will try to respond to many later since many know...and others need to know the possible different roads this can take........oompa
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  Who Has the most beautiful Name on this board?

  by hamsterbait in

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  i have my own preference, but dont want to influence the vote.. as you register your vote please add 1 to the running total.. hamsterbait -1. shall we close the vote next week?.

  any betters here?.

  hb.

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  before the first page fill up with my name....i must go with leolaia.........oompa
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  can you really ever fade with immediate family still in?

  by oompa in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am beginning to think not....elders still want to call on me rather than befriend me in any way.....and with a "good" wife and son and parents in, it seems like i still have one foot in only because of the overlap with my other "free" self........it is hard to really feel free in this situation, and is still have desire to just run the fluck away.....which would mean pretty much giving up my family in nearly every respect.

  some here really miss their family and wife, others so love the freedom they seem able to move on and start fresh....as you know, i dont seem to have the balls for that, and at this point in my life the price seems to high to fully start over........it is the "one in one out limbo dance"......oompa.

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  i am beginning to think not....elders still want to call on me rather than befriend me in any way.....and with a "good" wife and son and parents in, it seems like i still have one foot in only because of the overlap with my other "free" self........it is hard to really feel free in this situation, and is still have desire to just run the fluck away.....which would mean pretty much giving up my family in nearly every respect

  some here really miss their family and wife, others so love the freedom they seem able to move on and start fresh....as you know, i dont seem to have the balls for that, and at this point in my life the price seems to high to fully start over........it is the "one in one out limbo dance"......oompa
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  New here

  by Heartbreaker in

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  2. experiences

  i have no idea what i want to convey in words here on this site, and have surprised myself by even joining at all.

  i intended just to read, and get a few pieces of information, and now am a member, and spend many hours looking through posts old and new alike.

  i am a current jw, born into it, and lets just say i'm in my thirties, female, and a mom of more than your average kids.

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  oompa

  heartbreaker.......you have a pm...click the little envelope in the upper right corner here...
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  Adam Naming the Animals ... Did It Take THAT Long ???

  by RubaDub in

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  the bible speaks about adam naming the animals in the garden of eden.. any thoughts about how long that would have taken ???.

  i mean, you have steve and betty the sheep, mike and nancy the dogs, miguel and maria the zebras, irv and amanda the cats, etc, etc, etc.. it doesn't seem like it would take a long period of time.

  plus, he was alone at the time so he wasn't getting pestered from his wife and kids about what the names should be.

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  oh did me and daddy elder talk about that when it first came out............damm that was ages ago!!!!......why the fluck did i not bail after three years of animal naming????.............must have been 20 years ago..........shit..........oompa
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  I need some assistance!

  by lepermessiah in

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  i have been posting on here this week, and all i can say is this has been the best form of therapy!

  there are some amazing people on here, many who have been through the same thing, if not much worse.

  there are so many of you that i would love to converse with, but understand why this format is for the best at this time.. i am in the early stages of breaking the chains that bind, and i need some suggestions on reasoning on these 2 points.

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  i like you just being pissed off from the hyprocisy........and quitting as in stop going and fade......make no other issues as they prob can eventually support your position since they feel the same way........good luck.......oompa
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  Does everyone else get this reaction from their JW family when discussing objections to the religion?

  by jambon1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when pointing out my objections to the jw religion with my wife, i have noticed a worrying trend which even after 3 or 4 years shows no sign of relenting.. after speaking calmly for an hour or so and logically pointing out my objections, my wife starts to put forward outrageous assertations about my points.

  for instance, if i am refering to the fact that disfellowshipping is a form of extreem punishment & i mention the terrible effects that being d/f'd can have on people, she will eventually retort with something like "so what you are saying is that we should tolerate paedophiles, rapists & thieves in the organisation then?".

  of course, i've never at any point said anything of the sort.. or if i have been overly critical of the amount of control the society wants over peoples lives, she would reply "so what you are saying is that we should all just go out & do what we want, get drunk & live an immoral life?

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  back when i did try, we rarely got to an hour, and she never made any crazy claims.....she just always kept saying the fds will get it right if they are wrong, and that where else could she go, and it is a loving brotherhood, and that i needed meds (nuts), she would get louder and louder and always try to defend with the appropriate WT lingo, and then she would scream, cry, sometimes smack my face off, and storm out of the room crying hysterically......

  i learned real fast after about twenty or thirty such episodes......we now have truce of no religion talk AT ALL!.......it is harder for me to be silent, but i found that after two years of this, she felt closer to god and org than ever before!!!........barf........total backfire.........oompa
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  What are the “fruits” that we are supposed to recognize?

  by bluecanary in

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  2. beliefs

  i posted most of this on another thread but i want this to stand alone so i can refer back to it in the future.

  one of our resident apologists has given her response on this thread.

  you can judge the relative worth of her response for yourself.. "by their fruit you will recognize them.

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  i recognize everything from a couple of nice firm peaches all the way up to a couple of nice lush melons...........even when i was a dub i always saw these and reconized them............oompa
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  So confused

  by greenie in

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  2. friends

  so i've been reading this board for a while but never posted.

  so, go easy on me!

  i have a lot of thoughts, but they're not going to be totally clear.. my story: i was dating a guy, not long, but totally fell in love with him.

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  greenie......you can pm me or call me.....i have much to say, but little will to go into depth here........this is pretty hard to share and talk about...i have one son very very in jw.......and one son kicked to the curb/out at 16......almost none of his family or friends of old will even speak to him, or me...my wife is in.......i am very out for just two years..........your questions are good.......but as far as your kid being raised in any faith.......i say keep them neutral as to religion......and moral as you feel/see it........and when they get older, let them choose for themselves...........take care............oompa

  an ya.....it is damm confusing