i guess it could be consisdered more of a "hands-on" type of problem.........oompa
Posts by oompa
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16Pornography is not a problem for most people
by gubberningbody inthe truth is that exposure to pornography leads to disinterest in the varied forms and representations of the human body.
only the learning disabled can maintain a fascination with something as basic as "protuberance 'a' fits into "slot b (or c or d)" [x rinse repeat].. the two page letter we had to deal with from the society was a piece of shit.. i had a mind to create a theocratic pornography calculator online such that one could enter such variables represented in this letter such as a. type of porn, b. times of exposure, c. duration of exposure, e. masturbation?
(y/n) and after entering the data it would yield a verdict - uncleanness or aselgia (loose conduct)=judicial.. what a hassle.
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Rehab has been very interesting, but ended nightmarishly....
by oompa inhi guys...oompa here.
was i in rehab for alcohol addiction or jwd addiction!?!?
!......no computers or cellphones allowed so i have been awol awhile..... ya, i finally made my self sick enough on booze to realize i was really sick and tired of being sick and tired....so checked myself into rehab without any planning at all and while wife was out of town on a family retreat...it was a a very desperate moment in my life, and i was extremely physically and emotionally sick....i was so desperate i took zero time to reseach where to go, but called an old school friend who said rehab had saved his life and he made the calls and actually took me and helped me check in to the place he went to 5 years ago.
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Shamus hit their ugly head on the nail.......although i followed the program to the letter while in treatment (they were kinda amazed at my note taking abilities!) and was given kudos as i went for keeping an open mind, participitating, being on time, room perfect daily etc.....the boot came for not accepting their "recommendation" to sign up for another month of "their" treatment.....
funny how that while being a model open-minded student while in a program that teaches to live life "one day at a time"..... i get punished for not accepting a "future" treatment program....i learned the saying there....:keep one foot in the past, and one foot in the future, and all you will do is piss on today".............well they pissed on my day.......oompa
btw...i pointed out how easily i could lied and said "sure, i will do the other program" and then just not done it, and they agreed i could have....but the entire recovery process was about self-honesty..........besides, once i had received the ultimatum....i could see inside the whitewashed grave
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Rehab has been very interesting, but ended nightmarishly....
by oompa inhi guys...oompa here.
was i in rehab for alcohol addiction or jwd addiction!?!?
!......no computers or cellphones allowed so i have been awol awhile..... ya, i finally made my self sick enough on booze to realize i was really sick and tired of being sick and tired....so checked myself into rehab without any planning at all and while wife was out of town on a family retreat...it was a a very desperate moment in my life, and i was extremely physically and emotionally sick....i was so desperate i took zero time to reseach where to go, but called an old school friend who said rehab had saved his life and he made the calls and actually took me and helped me check in to the place he went to 5 years ago.
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geeze thanks guys!.....and lmao...i was not trying to be funny about Fellowship Hall df'ing me....but that was just about exactly how it felt......first i had to to admit being powerless over alchohol.....then wound up being powerless over Fellowship Hall, or rather the head of counseling who was one a total uncaring prick, unlike nearly all of the other staff there who were fantastic.......but at crunch time they bowed to his pressure.......and thus i told he reminded me of my kinkdom hall elders and said "bye elder finley" as he left the room.............oompa
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Rehab has been very interesting, but ended nightmarishly....
by oompa inhi guys...oompa here.
was i in rehab for alcohol addiction or jwd addiction!?!?
!......no computers or cellphones allowed so i have been awol awhile..... ya, i finally made my self sick enough on booze to realize i was really sick and tired of being sick and tired....so checked myself into rehab without any planning at all and while wife was out of town on a family retreat...it was a a very desperate moment in my life, and i was extremely physically and emotionally sick....i was so desperate i took zero time to reseach where to go, but called an old school friend who said rehab had saved his life and he made the calls and actually took me and helped me check in to the place he went to 5 years ago.
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Thanks Shamus and others too....i surprised my family and a few others as well and i got good support for my decision....i could not help but mention to my dad and wife that not a single elder or person/old friend from my old hall called, visited, or sent a card...
....several months ago during a very, very low spot in my life i confessed to the elders that i had a horrible nightly drinking prob.........that was in march 09 actually, and since then not a single one even called to check on me, and that included one who was one of my closest friends ever....i could not help but notice that soooo many rooms were plastered with cards and flowers, and ya, my inbox remained empty the entire time
funny how losing your entire social structure makes itself visible even in things l like hospital stays.....but thanks too to the friends i have met here who I did get to speak with a few times while in treatment...........after a week we did get limited landline privileges.........oompa
btw.......i was VERY open and vocal (imagine that) about my JW cult life and how it had effected me.....there were tons of questions from the shrinks there, as well as the other guests.....all were TOTALLY STUNNED at the level of control/impact this group still has on my life and how it flucked me up while in it and during my exit.....
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Rehab has been very interesting, but ended nightmarishly....
by oompa inhi guys...oompa here.
was i in rehab for alcohol addiction or jwd addiction!?!?
!......no computers or cellphones allowed so i have been awol awhile..... ya, i finally made my self sick enough on booze to realize i was really sick and tired of being sick and tired....so checked myself into rehab without any planning at all and while wife was out of town on a family retreat...it was a a very desperate moment in my life, and i was extremely physically and emotionally sick....i was so desperate i took zero time to reseach where to go, but called an old school friend who said rehab had saved his life and he made the calls and actually took me and helped me check in to the place he went to 5 years ago.
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Hi guys...oompa here. Was i in rehab for alcohol addiction or jwd addiction!?!?!......no computers or cellphones allowed so i have been awol awhile....
ya, i finally made my self sick enough on booze to realize i was really sick and tired of being sick and tired....so checked myself into rehab without any planning at all and while wife was out of town on a family retreat...It was a a very desperate moment in my life, and i was extremely physically and emotionally sick....i was so desperate i took zero time to reseach where to go, but called an old school friend who said rehab had saved his life and he made the calls and actually took me and helped me check in to the place he went to 5 years ago
while the facility is ranked near the very top in its field, little did i know it was strictly a 12 step only rehab facility....which means not only is every other word out of their mouth "god" and "higher power".....they are also the backbone of their attempt at recovery and continued sobriety...
it was very interesting to find that many of the counselors there used the word "cult" to describe their inital opinion of AA and the very treatment program i was in..........so needless to say my "cult" alarms were going off non-stop the first week....and only through keeping a very open mind was i able to silence it enough to take out of the program what i was able to.....this was by deciding G.O.D. would stand for Good Orderly Dirction.....which was to be found in the program and the fellow addicts who were a source of positive reinforcement for me, and the directions/instructions i was receiving were certainly better than my former self-medication program!
then, with only a day or two left in my 28 day program where i had bared my soul....THEY DISFELLOWSHIPPED ME!!!!!...........ya...thats right....even though knowing i was extremely sad and depressed each day, and often wished i was dead....and that since third grade i felt like i had never fit in anywhere unless i was wearing a mask of some sort........they decided that unless i agreed to sign up for another month of Intensive Out Patient therapy (at their place of course....and time consuming and costly)....then i would be immediately discharged. (talk about bait and swith and lack of full disclosure!!!....ya, i may sue their ass as their web site is totally full of false advertising i now see)
so just when i was about to be part of a nice little club that i would have have been a huge advocate of...........the ugliness of a non-profit org. pretending to truly care about my physical, mental, and emotional well being reared its hyprocrital head...and it turned out to be just another business looking out for itself........(and although i still see value in AA/NA...for many reasons i was unable to commit to their outpatient program in the instant they demanded me too)
I am dumbfounded as are the many friends i left there...and the community i left is still in shock....rather than go hit the booze, i decided to attend the same friday night AA meeting we all went to each week while in treatment......i made some really nice non-judgemental friends the past 25 days that will be lasting friends....and that is a good thing.............and i learned a lot about addictions and myself.....and that is a good thing.....oompa is even doing a Daily Gratitude List which helps me focus on even tiny good things in my life as a means to stop my negative thinking and self pity....
my sobriety date is currently 9-15-09..........oompa
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Elders Trash Face Book
by sammielee24 injust found out that elders and spies are trolling face book and my space.
some elders in xxx congregation began trolling face book looking for wayward souls and using the links to other friends etc to get more info.
they waited until they had enough ammo on the 'friends' and then printed off some of the conversations being had....questioned the 'friends' who of course denied everything..and then they produced the printed copies to catch them in the lies.
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i dont understand how any elder could get any dirt unless you accepted them as a friend?.......anyone?......you do have to be careful even of what DF'd friends you have there, as one of mine switched teams and went back and outed me......complete with copies of my facebook pages...in living color!!........
facebook is a fave part of my still double life....(wifey is VERY curious about what my page is like...all these friends and not a dub among them.......kinda funny when dubs hit me up there.....i just never accept them as friends and tell them it is because i am only checking it about twice a year......then give them my e-mail address as the best way to contact me..........oompa
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% of witnesses actually making disciples?.........
by oompa ini dont think my wife even wants a return visit!.......i do not think she has placed any literature in over a year from the stack of old mags i see, and her bookbag looks the exact same every time i see it........ i wonder how many witnesses actually try to make a disciple?
?.......,esp by good ol bible study......i swear i think nearly anyone who accidentally finds "interest" does their damnedest to find some pioneer who gives a flip....and even they are hard to find.................oompa.
i can almost hear it now..."you are interested?
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i dont think my wife even wants a Return Visit!.......i do not think she has placed ANY literature in over a year from the stack of old mags i see, and her bookbag looks the exact same every time i see it.......
i wonder how many witnesses actually TRY to make a disciple??.......,esp by good ol Bible Study......i swear i think nearly anyone who accidentally finds "interest" does their damnedest to find some pioneer who gives a flip....and even they are hard to find.................oompa
i can almost hear it now..."you ARE interested??.....well just go to www.watchtower.org and you can find out all about it....bye".......
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Even if not for most ... does being a JW work for some?
by The Berean inare not those with a flawed plan better than those with none at all ?.
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yes...those with bible charade addiction.......and uncontrollable underlining habits........
but really what wobble said...i know a messed up kid that could not get sober without it and seemed to need the structure.......oompa
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ex wants to be free to remarry - ugh
by No Apologies inok, i'm sure i am not the first one to be in this predicament but it sure is a headache, my jw ex called a few days ago, apparently she has met someone (they're not dating of course!
) and she wants to me to hand over the golden ticket.
she wants confirmation either in writing or verbally to a third party, that she is "scripturally free" to remarry.. i have managed for years now to avoid any judicial action and my jw family members still associate with me, but that all could come to a screeching halt if i give her what she wants.. the only bright side is she totally robbed me on the divorce; if she gets married i am at least off the hook for "spousal maintenance", that would mean potentially thousands of dollars in my pocket.... .
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this thread cracks me up!.........mail her a plastic bag of used coffee grounds if she wants grounds..........but seriously........i have a poontang solution........show up at her home.......and since you guys are still "scripturally married" (barf and tooo stupid) then tell her you are REALLY in the mood and she had no right to refuse putting our her" marital due" (barf)........wonder is she would say she feels still married to you then??........oompa
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Cantleave went to the meeting last night
by cantleave ini have attended just a handful of meetings over the 2 months.
i went yesterday, because i had an assignment and i really wanted to see my mate talk about masturbation from the platform, knowing he would be very uncomfortable about it!!!!.
anyway after the meeting i was approached by the cobe.
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elder: If I really am putting Jehovah first in my life, all the necessities will be taken care of." also "The congregation will miss your assignments and you will be creating additional work for the other Elders, some of them are finding it hard too!"
hmmm........so everyone with the necessities is putting jah first?.......maybe god is showing his blessing of you putting him first by giving you extra work/income?.........and geeze....these elders are just getting more rewards/privileges not work...so they should be happier....i say they need their thinking readjusted........oompa