Posts by jimbob

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What I remember from 1975

by Big Dog in

since i am sort of late to the party this has probably been beaten to death and if it has just kick this thread to the curb.

i was 11 years old in 1975 and i remember being scared silly the whole year.

i mean there was so much hype about it and the tension in the air was so thick it was unreal.

To anyone who thinks the WT didn't promote 1975 was either in la-la land, or was so weak in the "troof" that they didn't pay attention. My mother, who is a die hard JW to this day, has repeatedly told me how when I was a little tyke (I was born in 1967) that she attended an assembly. At this assembly, the speaker announced that all the mothers holding their young ones on their lap, they would never have to send their kids to school because the big "A" would be here before then.

She bought into it, and has admitted to me that she knows the Society promoted it. (duh...do ya think?) But she defends them, as all JW's do, that it's an imperfect organization, destined to make mistakes. That's pretty much sums up the thinking of all JW's. It's God's imperfect organization and they will make mistakes. Typical of the JW mindset. They can't think outside the box for one moment, cause if they did, the box would collapse in front of them!

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Michael Jackson biography on cable VH1

by franklin J in

i caught the biography while flipping channels last nite and was surprised how much air time was given to the teachings of jehovahs witnesses and speculation on how it may have impacted the later decisions michael jackson made in his life.

it portrayed jackson the child as a victim of --not only the rigid teachings of jehovahs witnesses; also an abusive father ; dysfunctional family and the demanding rigors of a successful child performer; no childhood at all.

bill bowen was interviewd and the life of a dedicated jw was accurately portrayed.

jimbob

The wife and I finally got to watch it last night. Many things that were mentioned about the constraints of the religion hit home, especially with my wife who has a father similar to Joe Jackson. He's an elder who rules with an iron fist.

I agree that everything about JW's was accurately portrayed. Some said that Bill Bowen exaggerated about being able to be df'd for talking on the phone to a member of the opposite sex. While this might be a slight exaggeration, it depends on what they are talking about. If they are talking about school, music, etc..then no, they wouldn't be disfellowshipped. They might get a talking to from their parents or the elders who would consider that dating, but no disfellowshipping.

Of course, if they are on the phone having phone sex, then yes, they could be disfellowshipped. So what Bill Bowen said is accurate under the right circumstances. However, everything else he said is dead-on!

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American Idol - did I see a NWT?

by No Apologies in

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so i am watching american idol(yes i have no life) and one of the winners came out screaming and holding what looked like a nw translation - black cover.

can anybody with a tivo confirm?

it was like just before the horrible guy in the purple shirt came on.

jimbob

I just saw the part in question. I don't have Tivo to double check, but that sure as hell looked like a NWT to me. She's probably looking for part time work that doesn't require a degree and can help her continue to pioneer.......

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were there any embarassing moments in the congregation?

by badboy in

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jimbob

Well, I don't have anything funny to contribute. But I just wanted to let everyone know how much I enjoyed your posts. I was ROTFLMAO!! Especially the one about the brother being counsled on his talk about masturbation and how well he did on a "touchy" subject. That is too friggin' funny!!!! It's great that we can look back and laugh about this stuff now. Thanks everyone for the funny posts!

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Why do witnesses HAVE to use only hotels on the list for the conventions?

by truthseeker in

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does anyone know the answer to this?.

a while back i read that the society gets free rooms for its convention speakers if they agree to fill so many rooms in a hotel with dubs, but is there anything more involved?.

jimbob

Do they still open up all the bars?

Since the one vice all witnesses have is drinking, I'd say they stay open all night long.

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Happy Anniversary Mulan and Dave...um...mom and dad...

by Princess in

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42 years today!.

love you,.

rachel

jimbob

Happy Anniversary Dave and Marilyn!! 42 years is an accomplishment for anyone! We wish you many more to come.

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Repost - Disturbing Assembly Program - Obey Organizational Direction

by truthseeker in

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sorry about the double post, i had problems with the computer....

before i go into some parts of the program, here is the program for the following weekend.. .

circuit assembly program 2004-2005. .

jimbob

I very clearly remember this KM. It came out I belive in August of 2002. The very month my wife and I quit the JW's. Now that I re-read it...if this doesn't prove to people that the JW's are a cult, then I don't know what will.

There are so many deceptive and mind-controlling points in here, I wouldn't know where to begin. Imagine someone telling you that you can no longer talk to a family member cause they didn't do things the J-dub way. It kills me to think of the arrogance of Jehovah's Witnesses in believing they interpret the bible correctly and to shun anyone who used to think as they do, but decides not to any longer.

Imagine Jesus shunning people while walking down the street. And they say they follow Christ's example...how sad and pathetic!!

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Uh oh, we got caught

by Mulan in

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we are so busted.

i learned tonight, from my source, that someon saw our christmas tree and reported it to the elders.. rats, our days of anonymity are likely almost over.

starting tuesday, the local congregation has the circuit and the district overseer, before their ca next weekend.

jimbob

Hello there Namasti. Welcome to the board. I realize you probably don't know Mulan very well, but she is not in and hasn't been for years. She is not living any lie. Her only concern is how a da'ing would affect her very elderly mother who is still a believer. That's the only reason...but I'm sure she'll tell ya. Like myself who still has a mother in the org, we do care about their feelings, even though it may mean not sharing with them the things that are part of our lives. (like Christmas) But we enjoy the freedom for the organization, much like everyone else here on this board.

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Uh oh, we got caught

by Mulan in

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we are so busted.

i learned tonight, from my source, that someon saw our christmas tree and reported it to the elders.. rats, our days of anonymity are likely almost over.

starting tuesday, the local congregation has the circuit and the district overseer, before their ca next weekend.

jimbob

Dave said if they call him on the phone and ask if we have a Christmas tree, he is going to ask that elder if he masturbates. When he is shocked that he would be asked such a personal question, Dave will tell him he won't answer personal questions either.

That's hilarious! I hope Dave uses that one. I'd love to hear them try and respond.

So what's this you say about your JW friend (yes, I know who you're referring to) that can't see you anymore cause her husband won't allow it? I have a hard time seeing that ever happening.

I don't think they will come by your home, but if they do, I'll feel sorry for them once you and Dave have your say. They'll probably wish they never bothered you. Keep us posted and we'll talk with you more this Sunday at the big post-Christmas Apostafest...which I'm not sure what time that is.

Rick (yup...I'm using my name now)

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The way to get the jw's goat!

by gypsywildone in

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the way to stick it to the borg is not self defeating behaviors.

it's not smoking a cigarette, & saying "nah,nah,nah look at me".

it is not putting yourself at risk in risky sexual acting out.

jimbob

While I wish this was the case, to live a good life and prove them wrong, however, IMHO...they will never think this way. Let me explain why....

After shortly leaving dubland...I had a conversation with my mother, who is a JW. (and will be to the bitter end). I explained to her that in the eyes of JW's that know me and my wife, it doesn't matter to them what we do in life. They will always view us as in Satan's world and that we made a huge mistake. If our lives turn out wonderful, successful and happy, then they just attribute it to our pursuing ungodly things in the world. (a big no-no by the Society)

On the flip side, if we do drugs, get divorced and live on the street, they again attribute it to pursuing ungodly things and that we've now reaped what we've sown. And I know this is true, because all of us before leaving felt this way about others who left the org before us. If someone left and was happy and successful, they were going contrary to what the Society said. If their lives ended up in the gutter, then it justified their belief system. So you were damned-if-you-do and damned-if-you-don't. My mother tended to agree with me on this. (which surprised me)

My wife and I have been out for 2 years now, and had this conversation a few times. What we've started to learn now, is not to live our lives in trying to prove JW's wrong. We live our lives for ourselves, and cherish our friends that we have. We have no contact with any JW's, and we don't intend to. If a JW who knew us happens to hear about us and that we're doing just fine and starts to question their own beliefs...then that's great. But we aren't living our lives to prove anyone wrong. JW's prove themselves wrong everyday without my help....by what they print in their publications, their ridiculous doctrines, and how they treat individuals who aren't JW's.

I do see the point you are trying to make, gypsywildone. I'm not trying to say it won't happen...but I think the odds are against it. Just live and love life, and the rest falls into place. No guilt and no regrets....