Why would God let me go through this when I was fighting for him? Either he doesn't care, or he's just not there.
He's there. All he wants you to do is "stand firm". All that you need to do is keep being obedient to the will of God, not that of the WT or any of it's members *including your wife*. You don't need to do any fighting, for God or for yourself. This is the time to "stand still and see the salvation of Jehovah", to borrow a quote.
DO NOT MOVE OUT, not even temporarily!!! Your wife is ill and thus not in a position to make rational decisions or requests. Your son needs you, do not abandon him at this time. Do not let anyone run your life, especially right now. STAY PUT. There are legal considerations here; if you leave you are setting yourself up for a downhill slide. STAY PUT. You will not be adding stress to your wife by continuing to live at home. Don't let others stress you into making rash decisions.
It's going to be tough for a long time, this event marks the start. Hang tough in public, cry your heart out (and pray!) in private. There are a lot of prayers and mental support for you here on the board, even from people who don't normally post. We're out here hurting with you and for you.
Don't give up. Don't turn tail and run. This is a temporary situation. It will come to an end. Be there when it does. No matter how things turn out, you won't be tormented by as many issues if you battle back instead of giving in.
Much love from "just another poster",
AnneB
Posts by AnneB
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by brotherdan inso this weekend my wife had a major grand mal seizure for the first time in her life.
she was rushed to the er.
a few hours later while i was at her side she had another major one.. it was the scariest moment in my life.
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Cary Verse - known JW Pedophile Arrested Again
by Gerard inconvicted sex offender nabbed after boy found with him in carby bruce gerstman - medianews staffarticle last updated:11/21/2006 07:10:03 am pst.
cary verse, a convicted sex offender, has been arrested on suspicion of violating the conditions of his release.
since leaving jail, verse has become a jehovah's witness who attends bible studies classes.
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http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_17486124?nclick_check=1
Cary Verse loses outpatient status, back in sexually violent predator program
By Malaika Fraley
Posted: 02/25/2011 07:19:51 PM PST Updated: 02/25/2011 07:19:53 PM PST
Contra Costa TimesMARTINEZ -- A local sex offender was booted from an outpatient program Friday, clearing the way for attorneys to argue next month whether he should be recommitted indefinitely to a state hospital for sexually violent predators.
Contra Costa Judge John Kennedy said that Cary Verse, 40, "put himself at significant risk of relapsing" when he violated terms of a conditional release program by befriending a 24-year-old man in his group therapy. The man, referred to in court as John Doe, disclosed the friendship to his therapist in recent weeks, which led to an investigation.
"I just violated the terms of the program, I don't have a good reason," Verse testified before the judge's ruling. "It seemed like a good idea at the time."
Verse went to prison and later Atascadero State Hospital for sexual assaults on teen boys and a young man from 1988 to 1992. In 2004, Verse was one of the first people in the state to be released from Atascadero hospital after completing a state program for sexually violent predators. It took a year for officials to eventually find him housing in Bay Point because of protests.
Kennedy noted Friday that Verse has committed no crimes since his release and has a good reputation in the community, where he is active in a local church. However, earlier this month, he was sent to Coalinga State Hospital for the second time in five years for violating terms of his conditional release program operated by Liberty Healthcare.
His outpatient status was previously revoked in 2006 after he was caught driving with a friend's minor son."One would have thought that would have led him to avoid any further relapses," Kennedy said.
Despite knowing rules that participants in group therapy cannot mingle, Verse testified that he became friends with Doe last May or June as they rode the same BART line after their weekly sessions. Eventually, the two men started talking in the phone.
Last fall, Verse twice went to Doe's house, to give him and then take back an Xbox video game console. Verse said he gave the gift because he empathized with Doe that he had no entertainment while on house arrest, but later took it back because Verse had lost his job and needed money from a refund.
Both times Verse, who is monitored by GPS, falsely wrote on his daily transportation log that he was looking at bicycle parts when he went to Doe's.
Verse said he and Doe mutually agreed to end their friendship in December so as not to risk program revocation. He never had sexual feelings or intentions for Doe, Verse said.
Deputy district attorney David Brown argued Friday that Verse knowingly violated the rules and covered up his actions, demonstrating he is not fit for the program. Brown said Verse was "potentially grooming" Doe and called Verse's attentions "unwarranted." Verse's attorney Laurie Mont said that Verse is "very willing to work hard to regain the trust of Liberty."
The attorneys return to court March 25 to argue Brown's petition to have Verse recommitted indefinitely.
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Are you a meat-and-potatoes kind of guy/gal?
by compound complex in.
or is tofu your bag?.
coco ambivalent.
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Meatloaf, mashed potatoes and gravy, green beans, cornbread with honey butter, and afterward chocolate cake with chocolate frosting and a cup of coffee!
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Is it just human nature to gossip or are JW's worse? Feelings are hurt....
by mamalove init is so strange how once you distance yourself from your kingdom hall and friends, that they find it necesary to discuss and contemplate your departure and put out all kinds of statements that simply are not true.. i am licking my wounds today because some kind of nasty things were said about me to a friend of mine who is df, from her ubber righteous sister.
it was via text, so it was there to read.
the thing i can't figure out is i have nothing to do with this woman.
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'Wayyyy worse at the KH! After I left it was said that I went to Brazil with a man I met on the internet, that my youngest daughter had been living on the streets and had a child before she was 15, that I had abused my children in secret for years....blah blah.... At the time I was in shock that my "friends" would even listen to such things about me, then I discovered it didn't start with my friends, it started with my JW family!
Whether you believe in the Bible or not I ask you to consider the story of Job. He tried to tell people that he hadn't done what they thought he did and what good did it do him? Let it go. Roll your eyes and wonder what sane person could believe the slanderous things being said about you and what kind of person would make the things up, then get your thoughts back to whatever it is you're doing with your life now and don't let any of the idiocy slow you down or sidetrack you. That's all they want is to get you off course 'cause if you can make it without WT in your life they'll all be proven to be the "sheeple" they are. You've got gumption...you're trying to figure things out. And they have.....stories???
It took me years to stop hurting but now I'm past the pain. Where are they? Still gossiping about the same old stuff they were years ago!
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Branch office in Guam -- on Jehovah Street?
by FatFreek 2005 ini found this interesting, a 2009 kingdom ministry with reference to the branch office in guam.. .
*** km 2/09 p. 4 announcements ***.
the address for the guam branch office is watchtower bible and tract society, 143 jehovah street, barrigada, gu 96913.. it peaked my curiosity so i decided to see what this street looks like from satellite.
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The name "Jehovah Street" probably was done by the officials as a gesture of goodwill toward the people who put up the KH. I know of other examples: "Kingdom Lane" after a KH was built in a small town. The KH was near a small, unnamed lane out in the country and of the dozen or so houses scattered along the lane three were occupied by JW's. The other example that I can think of is in or near Wakefield, MA where the county named the road to the KH something "theocratic"-sounding (can't think of what it is right now, too many years gone by). It's not a big deal, happens all the time. Doesn't mean bribes or special favors, it's just the way things are done....Main Street, Oak Street, Industrial Parkway, etc. For those of you who remember old Yearbooks or Awake! issues, there have been stories about locals in some countries naming taxis and buses things like "Jehovah Saves".
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Watchtower contradicts the Bible on HELL
by brotherdan inin the public edition of the april 1 wt, the questions from readers twists scriptures, meanings, and language to come to the conclusion that hell is not a place.. whether you believe in hell or not, you have to agree that their methods of arguing this point are dishonest.
note this quote:.
"jesus knew that the very thought of burning.
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I noticed years ago that WT doesn't have a unified basis for what it teaches. Sometimes it seemed that the people writing the articles didn't have a clue what others had (recently) written.
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If I remember correctly, there's an old WT Yearbook that has the history of 25 Columbia Heights in it. As I remember it, WT wanted to buy the building but Squibb bought it before WT could. Once Squibb took posession they discovered that the building needed shoring up and Squibb had to spend millions sinking concrete pillars 90 feet down under the whole building....so, as you can plainly see, it was Jehovah's way of preventing WT from financial disaster. Further, when Squibb moved out and sold the building to WT, all the expensive work had been done and the building was ready for WT to move into and start printing!
Maybe it wasn't a Yearbook...as I'm typing this I'm hearing GB member Dan Sydlik's voice telling the story so it must have been something he talked about at a special event.
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Child custody booklet... have they ever denied it existed?
by Aussie Oz inhey all.
i seem to remember reading something online a year ago about the society denying that it existed.... may have been in a court case or something and the jw lawyer denied it until the other side pulled it out.... any ideas?
or did i dream it?.
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I can't say they denied it existed, but when the elders discovered that I had a copy they asked if they could "borrow" it to assist another publisher since there was no time to send for another copy. (This was when the booklets were new, back in the '80's.) Gullible me, I was happy to oblige, not so happy when, after repeated requests for its return, the elders told me it was "lost", while at the same time "counseling" me about having a booklet that was meant only for elders and attorneys.
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Good Samaritan - so funny - :)
by Gayle in(which one is the jw?
)listen to the end, quite funny http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_ghioufq1o
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Liked his acccent!
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Are JW's coached to be vague?
by InterestedOne ini recently emailed my jw friend a couple of questions about jw beliefs, and she gave a generic, vague response that did not answer my questions.
are jw's coached to answer in vague terms?.
i have been attending the tm "school," and although i see the "demonstrations" teaching jw's to give misleading opening lines at the door and canned answers to questions, my friend's response was not exactly canned.
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Google "squinting modifiers" or "two way modifiers". Essentially, it's all about writing in such a way that you can't be sure if a sentence means one thing or another thing. WT is great at that! JW's are vague because the literature is often vague. There are many such techniques designed for "wiggle room" instead of clarity. Quite useful when doctrine changes or elders want to "beat" a publisher into submission, eh?
Is it done purposefully? At one time I would have thought "no", but then I read something Barb Anderson wrote concerning the magazine article "Women Deserving of Respect". Does it mean that all women deserve respect or that *certain* women deserve respect? Apparently there was quite a bit of dissent around publishing the material at all. The result was an ambiguous title and vague material. The Writing Department knew all along that they weren't presenting a clear message.