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Posts by AnneB
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32When You Were A Little Kid, What Did Your Mother Say To Get You To Eat Your Vegetables?
by LoisLane looking for Superman ini hated peas.
my mom would say, "the kids in china are starving.
eat your peas.
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Elder writes a weekly newspaper article
by man in black inhello, lately in our local newspaper i've noticed a weekly column that is written by a current elder.
when i left 6 years ago he was the po.
and for some added background info , if he saw someone who was df'ed or "spiritually weak" he would go out of his way, and do his best to avoid them.
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AnneB
Methinks the writer wants to prove that he could write a weekly column. (I'd read it!)
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AnneB
Forbearance is a word that sums up the poem.
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Did You Ever Experiment At A New Kingdom Hall By Sitting In the Back, Or Wait To Be Greeted?
by ÁrbolesdeArabia inthere is much frustration from jws who attended other kingdom halls because the jws were not friendly and actually smug!
social experiments on jw good manners and the "love that identifies the true christians" did you find it?.
it does not exist because they do not love each other unless they are authorized to from the wts..
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AnneB
The worst thing I ever saw was in Burbank, California. For some unfathomable reason I decided to attend a meeting there, walked in early, and the first people I saw were a Gilead couple, home on vacation from their assignment on another continent. I had known them years before they were even married; never expected to see them in CA.
There were about 30 people already in the KH, talking in their little groups. No one even noticed that I had come in, much less greeted me. Worse, the wife of the Gilead couple (a really lovely young woman, always liked her!) was perched on the armrest of an aisle seat completely across the Hall from the locals...alone! No one paid a bit of attention to her! The husband, who had family in that congregation, was likewise alone, standing at the back of the hall.
Of course I went up to the sister immediately and her face lit up when she saw me. She brought me over to her husband and he was glad to see me as well because no one was talking to him either! Remember, these were Gileadites, and wonderful people as well, visiting their "home" congregation!
The sister and I talked right up to the minute the meeting started, and then we sat together. Not a soul in the Hall had spoken to either one of us. Her husband gave a little pep talk during the Service Meeting which was greeted with a yawn.
I didn't stick around too long after the meeting, but during the time that I was there, no one approached me or them, not one single soul.
I am still shocked and this happened a good ten years ago.
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Can you help me encourage Reopened mind.
by TotallyADD inas most of you know we got a very angry letter from our oldest son.
it hurt her very much.
i feel so bad for her because he attacked her for what i feel was very unfair.
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AnneB
From one mom to another: Kids do this, even the ones raised with the best of parents.
It's NOT YOUR FAULT. Good parents are up against a bad environment; people and enterprises who have their own motives for undermining parental responsibilities and authority. Emotion aside, what are the odds that the child will stick with the parent through thick and thin? The very best children (and mine were the very best, good hearts, good motives) can be turned aside just because there are more of "them" than "us"; our voices get drowned out in the cacaphony. Sometimes it happens while they are very young, other times after they are grown, but it happens...it doesn't mean you've failed.
Do not lose heart. This is temporary. Your son will be thinking, observing, and remembering, even though you won't see any signs. The worst thing you can do right now is to cower down, to buy into the notion that you did something wrong. Sure you made mistakes, every parent does! Whatever those mistakes may have been, it doesn't matter and you don't owe anyone, even your child, an apology. Everything you did was done out of love and in the best interests of the child *as you understood things at the time*. We learn as we live, and maybe you would have done some things differently if they had come up at a different stage of your life, but that doesn't make you "wrong". You handled life as you understood it at the time, and there's nothing reprehensible in that.
You will grieve, probably for a long time (as in years). This isn't a situation that will resolve quickly. Take it from one who knows...and believe me when I tell you there's no way you'll come out the loser on this. The parent-child bond is one of the strongest things there is. No matter what outside force tries to break it, it will remain intact. Grieve, because you are going through a period of deprivation, because your concern for your child seems like it can't penetrate the "wall", but at the same time, remember....he's YOUR son. You're his mom. That bond is still there, underneath, while your child is "unconscious" (not-conscious) of its strength. He'll say and do things that you never could have anticipated, but that's because he is caught in a malestrom only partly of his own making. Ride it out, never give up on him. He's thrashing around like he's delirious (he is), but he will come out of it. You wouldn't take offense, or try to reason with, or punish, someone for what they do when they're delirious, would you? Take that same attitude toward whatever he does now; bear the anguish, and fight to remember that it's not "him" that's doing these things, that something external to his own thoughts and heart is affecting him.
Little by little you will get your son back. Hold on. Give it all the energy you would have given if something had happened to him as a child. Put on a brave face for the world (defend him when people denigrate him) then cry your heart out in the privacy of your home. Whether you can "see" it or not, there are people who know you didn't do anything wrong. There are also people who have been through this very thing, had their own seasons of despair, who are now seeing things turn toward the good. Once that happens you won't remember how bad it was, you'll only feel gratitude and relief for having your son back.
It's going to be rough for a long time but he WILL return to you. Let that reality hold you steady through this time of turmoil.
From one mom to another with love and tears,
AB
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After 4 years..JWs knock on my door.
by Tylinbrando init was last weekend.
i was visited by 2 older jws that appeared to be elders.
first time in 4 years any of them have come to my door.
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AnneB
IMO, what you said was exactly what you should have said.
They "appeared" to be JW's, but were they? And no bookbags, literature, Bibles? Maybe it wasn't a field service visit but something else?
You did well. Nothing you did or said can be used against you.
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JW's are ordained Ministers!!! er..umm right?!?!?!
by DATA-DOG injust wanted to post this because i just discovered most of it, and you may be interested.
also, it is relevant to the victoria australia case, specifically the wtbts's defense.
if you read the transcripts, you will see how the lines are being blurred between who is a minister, and who is not.
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AnneB
Historically, nu-light is revealed in response to a legal or financial need...
I remember when that 5/1975 KM came out. My "unbelieving husband" and I asked an elder friend of ours what it was all about and he told us only Ordained Ministers could seek "ministerial deductions" on their income tax, and get reduced rates on airline tickets, theme park admissions, etc.
The more he talked, the more shocked we were, because we had no idea that he (and, by extension, his wife) were getting all these perks!
My guess is that the IRS, the airlines, the theme parks, restaurants, etc. were getting tired of losing money on said "ordained ministers" and envisioned a time when just about anyone could print up an ID card and get a price break. A few phone calls and a bit of correspondence later and, voila!, nu-light!
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Public Apology Nathan Natas
by Simon ini'd like to offer a public apology to nathan natas for making a wrong decision when i deleted him.. i allowed a combination of previous issues we'd had and input from other forum members to bias my decision which lead me to what i now, in hindsight, believe to have been a mistake.. whether you want to come back and post here or not i wanted to at least say sorry and will reactivate your account..
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AnneB
Simon, you're aw'right! (Not that I ever thought any different!)
Nathan Natas: Please do return to the forum.
AB
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Simon has stated the AAWA facts with exact precision
by james_woods ini think the problem is, as before, how the aawa is handling things and refusing to answer your critics makes things worse.
critics are not people out to get you, they are critical of something that you have done or given the appearance of doing and pr is the job of responding to address the criticisms.. this is the internet people, you can't just pretend that things didn't happen by deleting the comments!
especially not with a group that wants to claim to offer support and be open and honest.
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AnneB
Relevant insofar as it's possible to uncover Anonymous identities and take action against them.
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Simon has stated the AAWA facts with exact precision
by james_woods ini think the problem is, as before, how the aawa is handling things and refusing to answer your critics makes things worse.
critics are not people out to get you, they are critical of something that you have done or given the appearance of doing and pr is the job of responding to address the criticisms.. this is the internet people, you can't just pretend that things didn't happen by deleting the comments!
especially not with a group that wants to claim to offer support and be open and honest.
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AnneB
Apropros of nothing, this link may be of interest to some... http://be-law.com/news.php?id=123
Court Grants Ex Parte Application for TRO and OSC Re Issuance of Preliminary Injunction
February 2013
On February 22, 2013, the Alameda County Superior Court granted the ex parte application for a temporary restraining order, order to show cause re: issuance of preliminary injunction, and order for expedited discovery filed by Bergeson, LLP on behalf of its client. The firm's client, a technology company, learned that certain defendants were disseminating its confidential information on internet message boards. In disseminating this confidential information, however, the defendants used pseudonyms, and their identities were, therefore, unknown. The firm's client accordingly filed, and the Court granted, the above application, authorizing the client to, among other things, serve discovery on the relevant internet service provider in order to ascertain and discover the identities of the unidentified defendants and then ultimately enjoin these defendants from continuing to disseminate the client's confidential information on the message boards. Daniel J. Bergeson, Mindy Morton, and Kyung Lee represented the client.