But did she die because she refused the blood transfusions or was that just part of the series of events which made up her life? It would be just as easy to say something like "my sister died this morning after having four children", but there might be no causal relationship between the two elements of the sentence.
My condolences on the loss of your sister.
the watchtower constantly talks about elders doing everything "in love" and being reasonable and balanced, and not being masters over their brothers' faith (hypocritically).. but when elders receive specific direction from co and training from schools and letters, they go over mostly procedures, procedures, rules, how to obey the gb and if the friends dont like it, too bad because its from jah's organization.
and procedures.
so they are trained to go by the book, and if love can be shown, cool.
IMO, WT makes the elders scapegoats, but I would say it's to relieve themselves of legal liability rather than to make themselves look better.
..."that the bible does provide,.
if we build such faith though god's war we will survive!.
if we have such faith accompanied by works,.
When a song plagues me like that it usually means there is something in the lyrics to fit a current situation, either "for real" or because whatever I internalized through the words is ready to be put under a microscope, but in either case, the song applies somehow to something I'm currently dealing with. Maybe it works that way with you, too.
Hokey or not, if you have all the words to the song I'd appreciate it if you'd post them. Sometimes it helps to go through line by line and see just where the logic goes bad, if it does. The only other part of that song I remember is "On many occassions God spoke long ago, by means of his prophets on earth here below". What else does it say?
do you find that years after leaving the jws birthdays just don't matter?.
i just can't get into it.
in years past the inlaws have made an effort and given a little party but now we are out country its just not a big enough deal to be bothered with.. no presents, no cake.
May the good lord bless and keep you.
AB
may you all have peace!.
just came across this article:.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44629271/ns/technology_and_science-science/?gt1=43001.
Shelby asked "What is Truth"? Truth is that which cannot be disputed.
Could Einstein have been wrong? Yup. It just took people a while to come up with bits of information with which to challenge his assumptions.
AB
may you all have peace!.
just came across this article:.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44629271/ns/technology_and_science-science/?gt1=43001.
Change may be a constant but I wouldn't say it was a "truth". There are "truths", or one united "truth", but nobody's got it these days. Adam had it, but didn't seem to hold it in high enough regard. We'll get it again someday, and face the choice of living by it or not. For right now everything is subjective and we're at loose ends.
AB
and i did see ones posted earlier in the week (wishing an early - well, premature, actually - greeting, but who's being pendatic?)...
where the heck is the "happy birthday, tec"... on her real birthday day... thread?
surely there is one on this, the 29th (i think... it is the 29th, isn't it?
It was those doggone nanoparticles! http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/216238/1/HAPPY-BIRTHDAY-TEC
dear friends:.
something has only now come into my possession: all my mother's daily journals.
i am feeling incredibly overcome with emotion as i realize her many dreams went unfulfilled, particularly in the fields of writing and art.
Fifty cents an hour is just about what remains now after deductions for fuel, auto upkeep, taxes, supplies, etc.
folks, i almost feel silly creating this thread, but i think i must do it based upon comments by folks who think the various governments in the usa can make any legally enforceable laws they want.. they cannot!.
in the usa we have a republic.
we do not have a democracy.
Not "of the land", but "of the nation". They claim the land but have no right.
i realise that may sound like a stupid question on a jw forum but i was thinking about the events in the uk this week and i am wondering if we need to 'widen out our associations'.
it would be preferable if our efforts were directed not against the leadership of a single religion but towards raising awareness of the use of thought reform.
as things stand i am not aware of an effective way for us to communicate with ex cultists from other groups.
When JW-people go looking for "something" online, a JW-related forum like this one is a good place to start. One a person gets past perceiving him/herself as a JW-only, maybe a forum with a broader scope would be helpful (high control group info, etc.). Changing the focus of this site (and others whose focus is WT-related) could mean taking away the "first step". Think back through all you've read, most JW's don't perceive themselves as being part of a high-control group, but many do sense that something is wrong. You have to start where a person "is", then allow that person to move forward at a self-chosen pace and direction. There are many sites dedicated to other causes and perspectives but not too many for JW's. This site, and some others like it, are best left as they are.
AB
