As sad as I feel for Whitney and what happened to her, I feel sadder for Holt's wife; her pain is just beginning.
Posts by AnneB
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20Whitney Heichels Murderer Was a "Brother"
by daringhart13 inthe girl killed in oregon....found murdered......was killed by a 'brother' in her congregation.. its all hitting the fan in gresham, oregon.
i really hope this wasn't an affair gone bad.
they went to the same congregation and lived in the same apartment complex.. yep.....spiritual paradise.. not going to lie...........i'm filled with rage right now..
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who was the craziest person in your congregation?
by grumblecakes inpls share, i love these stories!.
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AnneB
Some of these "crazies" don't have mental issues, they are greedy, self-centered, and and have learned from years of experience how to use their skills to live off other people. "Learned helplessness". Nice work if you can get it (and want it)!
IMO, no one who has responded on this thread has come across as mean-spirited. It's natural to notice the behavior of others and just as natural to comment on things that catch our attention. Odd behavior runs full spectrum through the human race: we chuckle at the odd things babies do or say, at the antics of children and the childlike. Sometimes the amusement is tinged with bitterness but that's a far cry from disparaging people with mental issues. It's not unkind to be human or to notice other humans, in fact, it's.....human!
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Should "Irregulars" Have Psyc Evaluations?
by watson innow that we've found out that the murderer holt was an "irregular" we can all relax.
he wasn't a "regular" witness.
gawd, this reminds me of the witness attempt to assuage their guilt over the conti case, because he wasn't an elder...... .
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AnneB
WT is sly with its choice of terms! "Irregular" immediately brings to mind "something not right". How nicely that serves to distance WT from the alleged murderer in their midst!
Is the man a JW or isn't he? If he was ever baptized as a JW, sure he is! Even if he were to be DF'd he'd still be a "DF'd JW". Once a dub, always a dub as far as WT sees it; always under their "authority".
Is there a difference between "JW" and "Publisher"? Yes. If a person participates in the public ministry (in any form: letter writing, phone calls, "incidental" witnessing, door-to-door, etc.), and is in approved status in the congregation, that person is a "Publisher". Note: even if that person doesn't "publish" he or she is still a "JW".
Say what they may, he's their guy. It's going to be interesting to watch how they backpedal to avoid any bad press on this matter.
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who was the craziest person in your congregation?
by grumblecakes inpls share, i love these stories!.
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AnneB
Long years ago there was a professed "annointed" "sister", divorced, raising two foster "children". Children is in quotes because they were actually well over age 18 but because they were severely learning disabled they received disability income checks which, of course, went to the sister. At the time of her divorce (husband "went apostate") the court wanted to place the two boys elsewhere but she went to court and cried that they were her whole life and an exception was made to the two-parent rule in force at that time.
This woman's house (rented from a brother at a very discounted rate) became a crash pad for all the unstable people in the local congregations. Every troubled teen, every unhappily single person and a few unhappily married people hung out there 24/7. The place was a pig sty but that didn't stop the elders from appointing this woman a pioneer. After her personal car group finished their daily McMinistry this woman would yell "Home? Or Roam?" and they'd take off to visit various congregation members just in time for free lunches and an afternoon of counting time on the heads of any unbaptized members of the family. Sister Annointed was exceedingly large. Once she visited our home unannounced and uninvited. When she parked herself on the brand new sofa she literally ripped the upholstery and broke the springs of a custom made, very expensive piece of furniture! No apology, no offer to pay for repair. She did, however, mention the need to support the pioneers with material goods including a living room set so she could have the field service meetings at her place!
The sister claimed that after Armageddon JW's would be sent out to populate other planets so she would match up the unstable people from the KH (three congregations met there), some of whom actually married...and quickly divorced. She had a hand in breaking up one KH marriage and then matching the DF'd ex-husband with another woman in the congregation (who was promptly DF'd). So there in the same hall sat the ex-husband, the ex-wife, the new wife and her two children from a previous marriage, and the couple who got married just so they'd be ready to populate Mars. It was wild trying to figure out who was in good standing for a while, things were changing so fast! It was all OK with Sister Annointed though; no matter how the elders tried to keep her in check she resisted and told them "When I get my powers....".
The last straw for me where this sister was concerned was when she showed up at the Circuit Assembly Hall where they were selling off the old tables, chairs, and dishes (food service had just been stopped). She loaded her car, then told the brother in charge of collecting the payments to send the bill to her Father in the heavens, and drove away.
If she wasn't the craziest maybe it was the brother who would occasionally go off his meds and think he was Jesus Christ. Once he walked out on the field at the District Convention and made it almost all the way to the speaker's platform before the attendants even noticed him. Sad for him 'cause when he was in better shape he was a fine person, a really decent guy, according to my son who had many a good conversation with him.
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Look what I made!
by finally awake init's for my first christmas tree since i escaped from the borg!.
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AnneB
If you make the tree-topper-size from styrofoam then paint it the weight would not be too much...
I wonder if board people would set up an Ornament Ministry and endow you with other homemade tree decorations?
AB
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AnneB
Oh, noooooooooooooooo...
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AnneB
I saw the news story yesterday, listed with several other headline-only items at the end of a web page. Of all the headlines listed, I clicked on that one simply because I felt sad that someone was missing. It wasn't until the end of the article that I discovered she was a JW.
I had to stop and think about the response it engendered in me. It was definitely more than it had been a moment before I knew she was a JW. Now why should that make any difference? I'm not a JW, haven't been in many, many years. I no longer believe that the worst JW is better than the best "worldy" person, yet knowing that she is a JW left me momentarily breathless. Conditioning? Remember the announcements at the KH after some tragedy struck and word would filter back "thousands were affected but no JW was killed or injured", as though JW lives are somehow more precious than others?
I'm very sad that this young woman appears to be in harm's way. That's "normal". What's bothering me is that I care more about her situation than any of the non-JW similar situations that I read about almost every day. I'll know I'm OK when I care equally about all the persons that go missing no matter what their affiliations (or lack thereof).
I do hope that she returns unharmed.
AB
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That bus driver in Cleveland should get an award. Beautifully executed uppercut.
by Theocratic Sedition inshe had that one comin to her.
she's lucky he didnt stomp her out as he had plenty of time to really hurt her.
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AnneB
When you put up with crap, all you get is more crap. The driver put a stop to the crap. Good on him!
AnneB (Former Clevelander and lifetime bus rider)
Note: I've said what I have to say and I'm not planning to come back and defend my position. Say what you want, you're entitled...but so am I.
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Light a Candle for Oompa
by BabaYaga inthere is a lovely site where one may light a candle for a moment of silence.. http://www.gratefulness.org/candles.
i set up a group, where they may all flicker together, if you like.. http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=oompa.
(we love and miss you, oompa.).
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Light a Candle for Oompa
by BabaYaga inthere is a lovely site where one may light a candle for a moment of silence.. http://www.gratefulness.org/candles.
i set up a group, where they may all flicker together, if you like.. http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=oompa.
(we love and miss you, oompa.).
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AnneB
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=Oompa
Re-lit. Some of the candles are getting low...