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If you cheat on me, I will forgive you, but not if you leave Jehovah
by Hiddenwindow inwhen i told my wife that i no longer believe the wt is the truth, she started crying and said that it was easier for her to forgive me if i am unfaithful to her than if i leave the wt.
i am sure now: being a witness is a form of mental illness.
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Hiddenwindow
Sarah said:
Also, have you been unfaithful? It sound like you have been!
No. I have not. At no point have I suggested that I was... Don't let your Witness credulous self jump to conclusions so fast.
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If you cheat on me, I will forgive you, but not if you leave Jehovah
by Hiddenwindow inwhen i told my wife that i no longer believe the wt is the truth, she started crying and said that it was easier for her to forgive me if i am unfaithful to her than if i leave the wt.
i am sure now: being a witness is a form of mental illness.
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When I told my wife that I no longer believe the WT is the Truth, she started crying and said that it was easier for her to forgive me if I am unfaithful to her than if I leave the WT. I am sure now: being a Witness is a form of mental illness.
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WT: Dumbing down the message; no intellectuals allowed
by Hiddenwindow inhave you noticed that the most recent publications by the watch tower, and particularly the study articles of the watchtower magazine, contain less and less references to secular sources?
there is not doubt that the society was always making efforts to provide us with a historical and quasi-intellectual perspective of the world.
i am sure all of you can think of books by the watch tower that contained extensive information on history, biology, and even philosophy (insight, creation book, the bible -god's word or man's?
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Good point, BizzyBee... Some of the arguments are so childish that I ask myself if the WT is reallly testing the Witnesses level of stupidity: "Let's see how low can we go before they stop accepting our non-sense".
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WT: Dumbing down the message; no intellectuals allowed
by Hiddenwindow inhave you noticed that the most recent publications by the watch tower, and particularly the study articles of the watchtower magazine, contain less and less references to secular sources?
there is not doubt that the society was always making efforts to provide us with a historical and quasi-intellectual perspective of the world.
i am sure all of you can think of books by the watch tower that contained extensive information on history, biology, and even philosophy (insight, creation book, the bible -god's word or man's?
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Have you noticed that the most recent publications by the Watch Tower, and particularly the study articles of the Watchtower magazine, contain less and less references to secular sources? There is not doubt that the Society was always making efforts to provide us with a historical and quasi-intellectual perspective of the world. I am sure all of you can think of books by the Watch Tower that contained extensive information on history, biology, and even philosophy (Insight, Creation book, The Bible -God's word or man's?), but those days are over. The latest publications contain little, if any, of that. There is no room for intellectuals or scholars. Fred Franz is dead, and so is any attempt to give "the truth" any rational justification. This fact, among others (scandals included) may explain why many of us are leaving. At least in my case, I always thought that there was some rationality in my Witness beliefs. Of course, I have awakened from that dream, and now reject the entire belief system, but my point is that the religion is becoming dumber and dumber. What do you think?
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Is my life reaching to a dead end?I need a way out...
by justhuman ini just don't know what to do...it seems that i have been carrying this burden since i was born.
and the burden is to be raised and live for 33 years in the most mind destructive cult the watchtower.
after i have been disfellowshiped 2 years ago(yes my wife turned me to the "loving"elders for apostasy)i left home.
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Hiddenwindow
My heart is with you. I have children and a wife who will not leave the WT no matter how false or evil it is. I do not know what advice to give you, because I need advice myself. All I have done is try to reason with her several times and continue suffering silently. I am sure the day will come when I would not be able to take it anymore and will leave the WT. But I will do the impossible to save my marriage, particularly because my children are the most important thing in my life. I hope you find peace of mind.
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Leave silently or loudly: that is the question
by Hiddenwindow insince the wt has always capitalized on secrecy, aren't we playing into their game when we leave silently?
wouldn't it be better to make as much noise as possible when leaving?
it would be of great help if each individual who leaves for matters of conscience or disagreement with doctrine wrote a letter to his entire congregation and family explaining his view on the issues.
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Since the WT has always capitalized on secrecy, aren't we playing into their game when we leave silently? Wouldn't it be better to make as much noise as possible when leaving? It would be of great help if each individual who leaves for matters of conscience or disagreement with doctrine wrote a letter to his entire congregation and family explaining his view on the issues. What do you think?
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Ex-JW should take advantage of the podcast technology
by Hiddenwindow ini listen to podcasts several times a week.
while surfing itunes and downloading programs, i see a lot of ex-mormons podcasts, which i usually put in my ipod, but practically none from jw.
shouldn't we take advantage of this?
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Hiddenwindow
I listen to podcasts several times a week. While surfing iTunes and downloading programs, I see a lot of ex-mormons podcasts, which I usually put in my ipod, but practically none from JW. Shouldn't we take advantage of this?
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JW parents apreciate it when the State saves their children
by Hiddenwindow inhttp://www.catholic.org/hf/health/story.php?id=30411.
i have seen similar cases before.
when jw parents find themselves in the middle of obeying the wt or letting their children die, they usually obey the wt (we all know what indoctrination and fear mean).
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http://www.catholic.org/hf/health/story.php?id=30411
I have seen similar cases before. When JW parents find themselves in the middle of obeying the WT or letting their children die, they usually obey the WT (we all know what indoctrination and fear mean). However, when the State decides to take action and save the child involved, most parents feel thankful. This is aparently what happened here.
attorney Jo Ann Pietro _ appointed by a judge at the instigation of the hospital _ to take over as the child's temporary special medical guardian.
"My feeling was that they were relieved," Pietro says of the parents. "I just said, 'Look, if you don't consent to this, your child will die. She will never get to choose whether or not she even wanted to be a Jehovah's Witness.'" -
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Did you ever feel as if you were socially handicapped as a Witness?
by Hiddenwindow insome of my friends claim that growing up as witnesses was a normal experience, in the sense that they did not miss celebrating hollidays or associating with wordly people.
these friends are witnesses in good standing, therefore, i doubt their sincerity and feel that they just do not want to go agaist the party line.
in my case, since i always had the desire to participate in extracurricular activities in school (and did when i could), always felt actracted to politics and art, it was very hard.
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Hiddenwindow
Some of my friends claim that growing up as Witnesses was a normal experience, in the sense that they did not miss celebrating hollidays or associating with wordly people. These friends are Witnesses in good standing, therefore, I doubt their sincerity and feel that they just do not want to go agaist the party line. In my case, since I always had the desire to participate in extracurricular activities in school (and did when I could), always felt actracted to politics and art, it was very hard. I went through periods of deep sadness. Yes, I had Witness friends, but I felt embarrased for not being able to fully integrate to my non-Witness social environment. What was or is your experience in that regard?