hey folks,.
so i have a show coming up in west warwick, ri on 5/28.
you can check out the website www.thencwonline.com in the upcoming events section for all the details.
Standfirm,
Sweety, Tuesday feels like this is a good cause .....
You disagree obviously.
However for as strongly as you feel such, he is content to do so...
Don't make an issue or try to sell him when it is clear he has mind set......
Agree to disagree because that is as good as this is going to get, don't exasperate him or yourself.
Thanks Ray...... I am good 
hello to jwn!
this is standfirm.
i mainly post on the topix jehovah's witness forum, but i decided to give it a try over here also.
Godrulz...
Nope you are off target....
What I did was show you is that the JWs do proclaim Jesus' divinity (just because it isnt how you view it doesn't make it any less true).
Here's what I am seeing from your posts...... you are trying to preach, nudge, sway or 'reach-out' in your own ministry ......which is all fine and dandy as long as you can maintain respect and give dignity to those who don't agree with your interpretations or beliefs..... HOWEVER, much like Paul found it useful to discern the beliefs and practices of the Athenians....so too is it wise to discern the beliefs of JWs.....to not discern is like speaking Japanese to a person who only understands Czech.....
Selling trinitarism to JWs is a hard sell ......and if your intent is to woo them from the WTS than this approach is dead on arrival.....the Arian belief is a strong one that not many will part with it even if they become Ex-jws......in fact I believe it was 'Auld Soul' who told me that most Ex-jws are morelikely to become atheist because the indoctrinated issues of pagan origins leads them to research deeply everything so as to not feel susceptable to being snared again.
No one ever told a JW anything.....JWs have an automatic dismissal response to such approaches. We have the Truth, it us who lead you ......and if you don't know how to work with that mentality then it is best you consider moving on from this area of your ministry and allowing another who is better suited to take your place.
Beyond that I assure you that Standfirm and I both believe in Jesus' divinity as stated in the Insight book, we believe in the resurrection of Christ, we believes in Jesus..... we are equally certain of our interpretations as you are yours.
i just had to share this weird dream i had last night.
just because i rarely remember my dreams, and this one felt so real that i was really proud of my mind coming up with it!
lol and it's all thanks to the "word of the day" thread.
Did you watch the Guy Pierce version of The Time Machine?
(okay gotta say it cuz it is dubbie relevent......the 'force' holding you to the wall must have been an invisable SMURF)
this seems to be a favorite topic to bring up to any witnesses who post on any website where there are any opposers, either here or topix or anywhere.. so, here is the one and only place i will be discussing it.
who can prove that witnesses are specifically told not to post on websites about them?.
What Rachel-Alice- Maze means is ....
JWN is awesome and even she throughout her myriad of alias can't stay away....
I am sure in her head she is kicking opposer heiny and taking name later in a matrix-esque manner but the reality is that she has some unstability and we should all be aware of that if choosing to respond to her comments.
Generally I am consigning myself not to personally respond to her because she just brings out something of a big sister "oh no you didn't" nature in me and we bicker in an unbecoming manner........but that doesnt mean I don't care.
I am sure her stay will be brief either by choice or deletion ......(I know I shouldn't ask but please be kind to her)
this seems to be a favorite topic to bring up to any witnesses who post on any website where there are any opposers, either here or topix or anywhere.. so, here is the one and only place i will be discussing it.
who can prove that witnesses are specifically told not to post on websites about them?.
Some I know privately and wouldn't want me to reveal......(bethelites and COs especially aren't going to out themselves publically)
Generally speaking that is bad forum ettiquette...people like to interact of their own free will.....and like their boundaries of choosing who to tell.
If you really want to know I suggest you start a new thread asking who is willing to reveal their status or use the search options to locate an older thread where that was done...... (its a fairly common curiousity of new posters)
Looking forward to the future responses of such a thread! (and you are really holding your own in a dignified way....WTG -really proud of you!)
huggles
hello to jwn!
this is standfirm.
i mainly post on the topix jehovah's witness forum, but i decided to give it a try over here also.
The Deity of Christ should not be confused with a New Age, generic divinity of Christ concept. The issue is if He is created or uncreated. Arians were rightly condemned as heretical centuries ago
As an Arian and on behalf of most Arians...
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH... (translation godrulz says: my version is better than your version.....I am the judge of what is right and true and you are wrong Yknot, ignorant and misled wrong....)
To wit I respond....... dude get over yourself, you have an opinion of Christ and we have an opinion of Christ.... we both can list supporting scriptures...... if you really think that is the basis of salvation, well more power to you, just like more power to the Church of Christ people for thinking an adult has to be baptized to be saved ...... it is all 'interpretation' and 'interpretation is just opinion and opinions are like a**holes ....everybody has got one!
huggles and a reminder that Jesus luvs you!
this seems to be a favorite topic to bring up to any witnesses who post on any website where there are any opposers, either here or topix or anywhere.. so, here is the one and only place i will be discussing it.
who can prove that witnesses are specifically told not to post on websites about them?.
Okay....
Nice try Standfirm....
You still get caught up with associating/conversing/engaging with DFd or DAd...since you aint an Elder it really don't fly well if you ever get caught (that all said we gots elders, ms, former gilead grads, BS4SB (formerly MTS) grads, CO or two, Bethelites and pretty much every ranking of lower than GB JW lurking or posting)
I know you want to make excuses but just stop......
You are posting on the internet because it doesn't violate your conscience. Even if Gerrit Losch told you directly not to do it you would justify doing so using
*** w075/1p.31QuestionsFromReaders***
However, genuine anointed Christians do not demand special attention. They do not believe that their being of the anointed gives them special "insights," beyond what even some experienced members of the great crowd may have. They do not believe that they necessarily have more holy spirit than their companions of the other sheep have; nor do they expect special treatment
Just saying, own your choice to be active on the internet......don't dilly dally
hello to jwn!
this is standfirm.
i mainly post on the topix jehovah's witness forum, but i decided to give it a try over here also.
Godrulz topical suggestion:
THe Deity of Christ is a salvific issue.
And let me guess you think the JWs don't profess that Jesus is divine...(mumbles in a grumpy tone .....'trinitarians)
(BTW on a sidenote....the disagreement between Arians and Athanasians has raged for over a thousand years and will continue to do so until Christ himself settles the matter.....so be happy in your profession while also being humble to discern that you might be wrong but still have a heart filled with love for Christ......do not seek to divisions...for all that will occur is you standing in one place casting stones,, another in another place and yet more all making up the various denominations that fall under Christianity!)
Here let me enlighten you about how we perceive the divinity of christ
*** rsp.426Trinity***youbelieveinthedivinityofChrist?’mightreply: ‘Yes, I certainly do. But perhaps I do not have in mind the same thing that you do when you refer to "the divinity of Christ."’ Thenperhapsadd: (1) ‘Why do I say that? Well, at Isaiah 9:6 Jesus Christ is described as "Mighty God," but only his Father is ever referred to in the Bible as the Almighty God.’ (2) ‘And notice that at John 17:3 Jesus speaks of his Father as "the only true God." So, at most, Jesus is just a reflection of the true God.’ (3) ‘What is required on our part to be pleasing to God? (John 4:23, 24)’ Do You
*** it-1p.639Divine***
Then, at Colossians 2:9 the apostle Paul says that in Christ "all the fullness of the divinequality [form of the·o′tes] dwells bodily." Here, again, some translations read "Godhead" or "deity," which Trinitarians interpret to mean that God personally dwells in Christ. (KJ,NE,RS,NAB) However, Liddell and Scott’s Greek-EnglishLexicon defines the·o′tes in basically the same way it does thei·o′tes, as meaning "divinity, divine nature." (P. 792) The Syriac Peshitta and the Latin Vulgate render this word as "divinity." Thus, here too, there is a solid basis for rendering thei·o′tes as referring to quality, not personality
Huggles!
hello to jwn!
this is standfirm.
i mainly post on the topix jehovah's witness forum, but i decided to give it a try over here also.
Yall..... give him a chance....
Let him journey on this path.....he is being better mannered then Bane was when he first began to post (luvs ya Bany-Botz baby!)
