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Posts by yknot
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Do you believe in fate?
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yknot
Sure....when under the spell of romantic delusions .....Yknot + forever and forever and ever.....blah blah blah cue lovey-dovey music..
The rest of the time I prefer my practical JW approach on this subject....
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yknot
ooops forgot being that they are all MEN...
the top of that list is probably just like most (if not all) MEN....
PORN
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yknot
How much must be collected each year to maintain as Sir82 brought out above....
How can we diversify to get more donations without losing control...
How many will we lose after 2014.... (answer very few, most don't really care or discern)
How can I beat Bro. (insert GB name) in next meeting....
Yknot and Slimboyfat are onto something good with the Mormon stuff.....we should reconsider that committee
Finally..... 'wonder what they talking about on JWN today'
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The great crowd has no mediator. Jesus is only the mediator for the 144K
by blond-moment inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft-ey9qodgw.
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yknot
ya....all of it is patches to explain why the end ain't come, WTS is relevent and why we all should be in obedience!
It has gotta be a pain to be a Brother assigned to answer calls........
However since I am preparing for tomorrows meeting...... I will keep my good-dubbie tinfoil hat on and direct the board's attention to a proper dubbie response..... Matt 25:31-40 NWT
31 "When the Son of man arrives in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit down on his glorious throne. 32 And all the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate people one from another, just as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 And he will put the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on his left. 34 "Then the king will say to those on his right, 'Come, YOU who have been blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for YOU from the founding of the world. 35 For I became hungry and YOU gave me something to eat; I got thirsty and YOU gave me something to drink. I was a stranger and YOU received me hospitably; 36 naked, and YOU clothed me. I fell sick and YOU looked after me. I was in prison and YOU came to me.' 37 Then the righteous ones will answer him with the words, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty, and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and receive you hospitably, or naked, and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to you?' 40 And in reply the king will say to them, 'Truly I say to YOU, To the extent that YOU did it to one of the least of these my brothers, YOU did it to me.'
It is with this understanding that we joyfully apply the fine examples set forth for us in such articles by the Watchtower as Oct 15, 2009's "You Are My Friends" in paragraphs 14-18!
Friendship With Christ Today
14 Many of those first-century Christians had known Jesus personally or had seen him after his resurrection. Obviously, we have not had that privilege. How, then, can we be friends of Christ? One way is to obey the direction provided by the faithful and discreet slave class, which consists of Jesus' spirit-anointed brothers still alive on earth. Jesus promised that during "the conclusion of the system of things," he would appoint this slave "over all his belongings." (Matt. 24:3, 45-47) Today, the vast majority of those who seek to be friends of Christ are not members of this slave class. How does their response to the direction they receive from the faithful slave class influence their friendship with Christ?
15 Read Matthew 25:31-40. Jesus called those who would make up the faithful slave class his brothers. In the illustration about the separating of the sheep from the goats, Jesus clearly states that he takes personally the way we treat his brothers. In fact, he said that the determining factor that would distinguish a sheep from a goat would be the way an individual treated even "the least of these [his] brothers." Therefore, the primary way that those with the earthly hope demonstrate their desire to be friends with Christ is by supporting the faithful slave class.
16 If you hope to live on earth under God's Kingdom, how can you express your friendship toward Christ's brothers? Let us consider just three ways. First, by wholeheartedly sharing in the preaching work. Christ commanded his brothers to preach the good news worldwide. (Matt. 24:14) However, the remaining ones of Christ's brothers on earth today would be hard-pressed to shoulder that responsibility without the assistance of their other sheep companions. Really, each time members of the other sheep class engage in the preaching work, they help Christ's brothers to fulfill their sacred commission. The faithful and discreet slave class deeply appreciates this act of friendship, as does Christ.
17 A second way that those of the other sheep class can help Christ's brothers is by financially supporting the preaching work. Jesus encouraged his followers to make friends for themselves by means of "the unrighteous riches." (Luke 16:9) Not that we can buy friendship with Jesus or Jehovah. Rather, by using our material assets to further Kingdom interests, we prove our friendship and love, not just in word, but "in deed and truth." (1 John 3:16-18) We provide such financial support when we engage in the preaching work, when we donate money toward the construction and maintenance of our meeting facilities, and when we contribute funds toward the worldwide preaching work. Whether the amount we contribute is small or great, both Jehovah and Jesus certainly appreciate our cheerful giving.-2 Cor. 9:7.
18 A third way that all of us prove that we are friends of Christ is by cooperating with the direction provided by congregation elders. These men are appointed by holy spirit under Christ's direction. (Eph. 5:23) "Be obedient to those who are taking the lead among you and be submissive," wrote the apostle Paul. (Heb. 13:17) At times, we may find it a challenge to obey the Bible-based direction given to us by the local elders. We are likely aware of their imperfections, and this may distort our view of their counsel. Still, Christ, the Head of the congregation, is pleased to use these imperfect men. Therefore, the way we react to their authority directly influences our friendship with Christ. When we overlook the faults of the elders and joyfully follow their direction, we prove our love for Christ.
Do you want to be friends with Jesus? https://watch002.securesites.net/e/contact/submit.htm
(yknot giggles and ducks out before the rotten fruit and veggies get tossed)
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Why Did Watchtower Leaders Think Organ Transplants Were Evil?
by Bubblegum Apotheosis inthe light is suppose to be progressive, moving us two steps forward, and hopefully none back.
jehovah does not test us, or try to trip us up with strange un-biblical teachings.
i can remember how the merits of avoiding blood, were in full swing during the heavy metal big haired days of the 1980s.. we were told how lucky we were, that we would not be contracting "hiv-aids", "hep-c" some other rare blood disorders, this made us look like we were ahead of the paradigm, this even made sense and we felt good about it.
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yknot
Because it was 'new' once..... 'new' is always immediately 'evil'.
Our history of medical quackery (ala Clayton Woodworth editor of the Golden Age (now Awake!)) is astounding and it still lives on in remnants especially in old-time families or smaller communities with old-time ties...... which means I have Sisters in my Hall who refuse tetanus shots due to them being a serum (MOCd Sept 1958)!
Knorr/Franz brought us blood and transplants because most of the other quackery was curtailed by federal (USA) regulation during the latter part of Rutherford's reign or when the US Govt came a knocking about sending Gileads Grads beyond US borders without mandatory vaccinations.
Such divisions cause JWs to view things as matters of loyalty and dedication further deepening their allegieance to the Org vs 'the world'.
Today's loyalty/dedication division pushing buttons are mainly Blood and Education but of course this DC season we have 'Sparlock' and a renewed call to stamp out all things 'magical'.....grrrrr this really is the 80s part deux!
The good news is that organ regeneration is available limitedly today and will be more so in the future.....thus removing rejection issues and improving lives of millions!!!!!
Until further notice..... the world is a horrible place, doctors and scientist should be looked upon as possible nutjobs who are looking to appoint themselves as 'God', doom is impending, all is wrong, these are difficult times (beyond the economy), only those aligned with the Org might be saved, the end is nigh, living in the last days, end is just around the corner, the beatings will continue and blah blah blah blah
Giggles
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If you never have used the internet, would you have returned to the borg or stay in the organization?
by Iamallcool inif i have never used the internet, i would probably return to the borg by now.
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yknot
I would be a full-on uber uber uber reformist .....
Hailing the WTS as God's Org while lamenting the stupidity of this 'dumbing down'
Raising my children to be homeschooled uber little old-school theocrats, spreading that zeal and infecting other children as well.
Trying to do more, trying, trying, tyring.....
Ever viewing things with rose colored glasses, boundless optimism as if I was the engergizer bunny.
BECAUSE ALL OF IT WAS 'PROOF' THE END IS NIGH, JUST AROUND THE CORNER.....LIVING IN THE LAST DAYS!!!!!!l
It is only because of an accidental click onto JWN (then JWD) instead of the watchtower.org, Terry's comment that compelled me to return and information provided by many kind JWD members willing to share themselves, their pdf collections and time that I am awake and a member of the ever-growing conscious-class.
(big hug and thanks to Simon and all who held my hand as I slowly opened my eyes fully)
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am I making the right choice?
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yknot
All will be fine....
So long as you are 'associating' you will occassionally have conflicting emotions/thoughts/ideas...
I am returning to utter full activity as of tonight.... (I am fully 'conscious' too)....so I truly understand this merry-go-round.
Remind yourself ......
1) Our kingdom message is 'Jesus was enthroned in 1914'
2) We didn't start teaching this until the 1920s
3) We have revised, whitewashed and patched and will continue to do so...
Read and discuss our beliefs......start with Russell or Rutherford....download copies of the Golden Age....
Post openly about your feelings and thoughts.....you are not alone in this walk, some of us have walked ahead of you, some are walking with you right now and some are following behind you!
Decide what your goal is..... exit, slow exit or in for the endgame.
Huggles
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jw.org message
by Gayle in"we are working on a new design for jw.org and expect it to be available around september 1, 2012.
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yknot
LOL
More like 'DON'T GOOGLE" to find all our sites!!!
Googling leads to unauthorized JW sites (DISOBEDIENT JWs like www.JWTALK.net and www.JWBROTHERS.org ), TATT sites (like www.freeminds.org , www.jwfacts.com ) and friendly lil discussion places like JWN and www.extj.com for our Spanish Speaking Hermanos/Hermanas!!!!......
The biggest question for me is if they will include the 'red-headed stepchild website www.jwgift.org as I can't remember it being linked to www.jw-media.org , www.watchtower.org or www.jw.org
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jw.org message
by Gayle in"we are working on a new design for jw.org and expect it to be available around september 1, 2012.
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