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2008 Feb 15 - Study Edition PDF
by AlphaOmega inhere it is : feb 15 2008 study edition.
http://files-upload.com/files/671272/2008-02-15%20watchtower%20study%20edition%20ocr.pdf.
with many thanks again to fokyc for the scans.
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"Jehovah's Witnesses" Wikipedia Article...
by deaconbluez in...now has an accurate description on the first line:.
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yknot
LOL
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American Class Structures. How Does That Work?
by bigmouth insave my soul made a comment in his current thread that interested me: .
"he said he had never met a black man of his class in his small town.
" - this was said to him by a white man.
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yknot
Our class system, depends on how you classify.
Economic, Education, pedigree, and success....etc
There will always be a way for someone to bias another.
One person's ceiling is another person's floor
But the unique thing about America orginally, was the ability to not be limited by one's birth.
Of course in the begining there were many who were denied this "right" because of race and gender.
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Randy Watters, thank you!
by onacruse inthis may seem like a shameless plug for www.freeminds.org.
but it's not.. randy has been a source of significant information for me (and countless others) over the last decade(s), and very recently sent me (at his expense) some additional information about the wts.. now, one thing i must say is that randy and i do not share the same ideologies about religious perspectives.
but, ya know what?
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yknot
Randy Rockz !!!
Cheers Mate
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I need some advice...my first post!
by Dehliah ini've been around for awhile, but never registered for fear of giving my personal information (yes, that's how much the borg scares me.
i was raised in the org, and left when i was 18. i realized that every religion firmly believed that they were correct, and that forced me to re-evaluate the religion on its merits, as opposed to my insistent belief.
needless to say, i saw the man behind the curtain.
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yknot
Welcome Dehliah !
I am sorry about your loss and all you have endured hugs
Many have had to leave as you and your cousin did.
If you want to maintain some sort of contact with your family there are two choices.
1. Return to the land of the JWs
2. Play the "I am depressed" card. Maybe even go as far as to have your doctor prescribe meds ...which are great for appearances. Open up a subscription to the pubs at the KH (p/u every 2-3 months or have a relative p/u for you). Keep up the JW speak with your family so they see you are "trying to overcome" and this reassures them that you know the WTS message. Yea attend the memorial. Keep posting and reading JWD as this is community group therapy. You can play this for years.
Know that you are not alone in this predicament.
Agape,
yknot
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Disassociation Questions
by DT ini disassociated myself a few months ago.
i requested confirmation that they have received the letters.
(i sent multiple copies) i also asked for details about the announcement.
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yknot
Drew is correct....!!!!!
I will PM you the details from
"Pay Attention to Yourselves and to All the Flock" 1991 Ed, UNIT 5 (c) pages 128-131
Yknot
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any former elders have an answer for me?
by helricha inso i was df'd for living with/having sex with my boyfriend for 3 years and then not ending the relationship and moving out within the week between the first meeting of confession and the second meeting where they tell me what their decision was.
i did move out 3 months later with the intent of being reinstated over a period of time.
well i couldn't cut off the relationship with my bf even though i did move out, so i married him after a year and then 2 weeks after that i slept with someone else.
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yknot
Go in peace..... Door is open here 24 hours..........
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They want to make me an elder :-O
by outofthebox inthis is the third elder that tells me that the body of elders will recommend me as an elder in the next visit of the co.. what do you think i should do?
some facts:.
i am still 'in' because of my family.i am ms.i am doing 10+ fake hours (well, some months it is fake), so they see my "spiritual" progress.-ootb.
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yknot
Pray about it.......
You are out of the box already mentally........but physically confined by family.
Do you want to help others by being an Elder?
Do you want to shepherd?
Do you think that by being an Elder, having access to "internal" docs, you can show your wife that the WBTS is turning its back on Jah and slaving for riches.
What are the benefits, what are the drawbacks?
Y
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thirdwitness.com
by besty inhas this site been critiqued elsewhere on jwd .
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http://thirdwitness.com/childabuse/default.html .
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yknot
This is what I know of him, he uses half truths.
I had a "chat" about the case of Amy B in Texas (no fiduciary responsibility). Her case was suing the local congo and NY. NY was dismissed. This was his entire argument, that since the case against NY was dismissed the WTBTS was vindicated.....yet the congo of JWs locally were still on the hook. Apparently in his mind the JW congo and WTBTS are not interchangable or connected (guess he as never read a the deed papers on a KH). Eventually she closed her case here in Texas and sign on with the Napa case. They settled those 16 cases back in May.
He made a very bad impression. Theocratic Warfare.........(lying is lying is lying)
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any former elders have an answer for me?
by helricha inso i was df'd for living with/having sex with my boyfriend for 3 years and then not ending the relationship and moving out within the week between the first meeting of confession and the second meeting where they tell me what their decision was.
i did move out 3 months later with the intent of being reinstated over a period of time.
well i couldn't cut off the relationship with my bf even though i did move out, so i married him after a year and then 2 weeks after that i slept with someone else.
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yknot
Number 1, you do not need to confess to the Elders. You confess to Jehovah directly through Jesus. No Elder can offer forgivness. (PS I cannot find anything in the Flock book saying you have to confess wrongdoings while DFd, you have to repent for your actions that led to the DFing only. Being that you are married to the guy, should work in your favor.)
Number 2 You need to make the decision on what is best for your marriage and your sanity. Would you want to know, would you want to remain ignorant? This is a tough decision you are facing. Both directions have consequences, so weigh your options carefully.
Number 3 If you want to be reinstated, stick to the reason for the DFing.
Best Wishes,
Y