Posts by yknot

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Can I be DF'd

by Robert7 in

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so the reality is, .

- i am in 'good standing'.

- i am questioning/doubting the validity of the bible.

yknot

Disfellowshiping,

Here read the guidelines for yourself.

type in browser address: watchtower.cc

Click on WT files and click Pay Attention.pdf

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COULD YOU HANDLE LIFE ALONE?

by Mary in

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if you mate died suddenly or left you, could you handle life alone?

would you remain single or get married again?

i ask this because my brother in law's witness mom just died recently, and we're wondering how his dad is going to handle life alone now.

yknot

I think this is more a gender question.

My grandmother is a widow, has been for over a decade, never batted an eye at anyone since.

My grandfather is technically a widower but considers himself single and looking

Women live longer without men, men live longer with women.

I personally would wait many years before pursuing a serious relationship as I have small children. I had unpleasant experiences with step parents and would quickly give any marriages the heave-ho if my children were unhappy. (lol I could see it now..... by 50 I would be on my 7th marriage)

It also depends on whether the person "can't be alone".

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Where have you turned to?

by Robert7 in

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i am very curious, since i am myself trying to figure out where to turn to, if anywhwere.

(i am still debating if i am truly an atheist at heart and religion in general turns me off at least as of now) where have you turned to since you left the wt?

i would imagine that many people who became witnesses had spiritual needs (which is ironic why i am feeling atheist, lol) but have you gone to other churches, stopped going to church, become atheist, etc?

yknot

I am figuring out how to fade gracefully and take as many with me as possible (most of us are here because "where else can we go?"). None of us find trinity appealing or believable (so there are no denoms or non-denoms who would except any of us as arians).

I understand atheism better now (we have two in our KH).

I still believe in God.

I see now the difference between religion and faith.

Being that I never had a chance at salvation (according to certain Elders), I am attempting to unite those who have faded, inactive, fading, stagnant and recently DA'd/DF'd to form a loose fellowship. Most of us stand united on the lack of trinity, hell, and immortality of the soul, but are unsure of what else we believe. I think much like weight-loss, recovery and bible study understanding can be better attained and maintained with the buddy system or with a large support group.

If all the above fails.

The question will be: Which is the greater lie?

Staying a JW but not fully believing? (apostate amongst the sheep)

Or

Joining a worldly church (reaping many social benefits of various ministries and fellowship opportunities) but never professing trinity, immortality of the soul and hell? (apostate amongst the sheep)

Who knows...I am open to even more suggestions.

Best Wishes
Yknot

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A gradual decline or sudden collapse for the WTS?

by DT in

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many of us believe the days of the watchower society may be numbered.

they are receiving an unprecedented amount of well deserved negative publicity.

however, they are still experiencing modest growth.

yknot

I think as long as there are sheep to be ~~led~~ fleeced, the WTS will remain.

The information age might be the decline of wealthier/mobile nations but the illiterate and under-educated nations are ripe for the picking.

The only true way for them to thrive as an organization is to follow the LDS and promote large families, education that leads to high paying or influencial jobs so many can make large donations and leave sizeable estates to the WTS, and mainstreaming.

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The real story: Is your congregation stagnant, dwindling or thriving?

by truthseeker in

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with the 2007 service year stats out one could be forgiven for thinking that wt's problems are over, the child abuse settlement an itch in their bethel backside and the blood issue a minor annoyance.. if the truth were known, it is probably that more often than not, congregations are in decline, attendance is poor and few new recruits are not already jw family members.. so, if you know how your congregation is doing, if you have the pulse of your hall, let us know.. .

my congregation (which shall remain nameless).

dwindling attendance at all meetings (around 80%).

yknot

My KH has been stagnant for decades......

I can only remember 3 who actually converted as locals since the early 80's.

All other new blood are from a recent population boom, but were JWs before moving. The "movers"pretty much just replaced the older JWs that had died.

Our number has always been about 50-75 (including children).

FS is faked by many, most of us Moms count child rearing and playdates as time.

Most Brothers just leave the pubs in the doors, or plaster laundry mats, phone booths. post offices, library free material desk, public bathrooms, and top of newspaper stands.

BTW.....the mailing of Pubs in prepaid enevelops back to companies is a BIG HIT. TY for the suggestion!

The only ones who really go in FS is the older women who have devoted their lives to the organization to the point of forgoing chidbirth.

No social functions, because some used a sister's "card game night" to hook-up (50 and 60 year olds nonetheless....) DFing followed. The only "social" now is eating-out after the Sunday meeting.

Shepherding........Nah that is just a JW fairy tale/ myth.....Elders aren't shepherds. You obviously must have heard that we have Shepherds from an Apostate!

We are all here because we are "arian" in belief and yet there is no where else to go. Even the pioneers are downhearted.

None of us are really friends with each other genuinely, we are friendly because we are all JWs and JWs aren't suppose to have "worldly" friends. We just keep saying we live in a 'spiritual paradise' hoping one day that Jehovah will fix everything, that this is more of a local problem vs a international epidemic. The Elders heavily preach "wait on Jehovah", yet many of them have serious doubts too.

The old WT conductor actually stopped the meeting a couple months back and said he "couldn't do this anymore", said not to consider him a JW from the point on, stepped of the stage, grabbed his satchel and left. (Rumor is his leaving is RBC related, but he won't spill why he left)

Times have been lean for decades

Has anyone out there really had any spiritual "meat" since pre-75? Because I feel like we have been eating vegetarian left-overs forever.

If what yall say is true about Ray Franz writing that Schroeder suggested this anointed ( I don't know what decade was mentioned) thing way back then... then now we are being fed really really old frozen vegetarian left-overs. It is all starting to make army rations look appetitizing.

The only time I feel I belong is when me and other sisters are ripping the WTS a new one during playdates. Forget gossip it is all about WTF is going on in NY. Disenchantment is at an all time high. They GB all need to take marketing classes because they don't know who there demographic is anymore in English speaking nations.

On another note....the Spanish Congo is BOOMing..

I don't know who posted it but I think there statement was dead on:

People in wealthier nations/ positions join the JWs because of conviction, while those who are in poorer nations/ positions join because of hope.

My convictions of loyalty to the GB are falling fast.

The good news is after collapsing on the floor in prayer that Jehovah remove any wicked demons that were posessing me with doubts, the Holy Spirit (I think) gave me peace by pointing out there is a difference between faith in Jehovah and religion. Talk about scales falling.

Well thats my story of my little rurally isolated KH.

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Will there ever be a tit watchtower?

by jambon1 in

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we have had oral sex, etc, etc......... will they ever bring out an article that discusses what you can & can't do with a pair of fun bags?.

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yknot

Breast will stay firmly in place by the WTS because the old geezers up at the top grew up ~~Whacking-off~~, studying anatomy using the sears catalog bra section.

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What the bad Witness kids called each other...

by wanderlustguy in

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we called our fellow bad brothers and sisters "itnesses"...not quite there...

yknot

I was an anti-christ.

I have one of those "Chist" names so they just added the anti to it.

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Would You Be Putting 2+2 together if You Were Still a Witness?

by journey-on in

it occurred to me that if i were still a believing jehovahs witness, i would be thinking that maybe.just maybe.the watch tower bible & tract society, inc. has gone apostate and is guiding its flock off a cliff.. first..all the corporations that were formed separating everything in the eary 2000s.

what is the real reason for doing that?.

second..their association with the united nations.. third.their changes on major doctrines.. fourth.the pedophile issue and subsequent cover-up.