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  Introducing myself.........

  by awildflower in

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  hi all, i've been reading this site for about a month now and decided it was time to jump in.

  it is truly a blessing to have people who know exactly what we are going through.

  some background, i'll keep it short:.

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  Maddie

  Welcome to the forum awildflower

  I am glad you have managed to get out of the WT with your children. Look forward to reading more of your posts.

  Maddie
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  My JW Daughter sends a Letter to us Explaining her Shunning of Me

  by flipper in

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  my wife and i sent my 22 yr.old pioneer witness daughter and her husband a anniversary card and $ 40.00 and flowers the end of april.

  my daughter wrote mrs. flipper and me each our own individual letters thanking us initially for the gifts - and then went into detail as to why she has not spoken to me for over a year and shunned me.. keep in mind as i paraphrase some of the highlights to these letters that the only negative thing i have said about the organization to my daughter in 3 years was to show her the ap news release about the child abuse settlements by the wt society .

  i'll quote parts of the letter to mrs. flipper first :.

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  Hi Mr. Flipper - It must have been a bitter/sweet feeling reading this letter from your daughter. Although she is very much under mind control, she tried to show her love for you by some of the things she said. Sadly, her whole perception of unconditional love is warped by being in the WT cult. I dont know what the answer is, just keeping the communication going must be a good thing.

  Maddie
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  My wounds opened up badly today

  by Maddie in

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  the past three weeks having been so stressful and very sad.

  my ex husband died after being in hospital for just over a week in intensive care.. i was just 18 and he was 21 when we first met and after a whirlwind romance we married 6 months later and have two sons together who are now adults.

  although our marriage ended after 25 years and i remarried 7 years ago, he was my first love and i knew him for most of my life.

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  Just want to acknowledge everyone on this board who have cared and shared back with me - Thank you all for your support

  Hittman - My grand daughter would not of known about the toys as they were still in the packaging in which I sent them and probably hidden away. I am devastated by it.

  Snoozy - Thank you for sharing your experience with me and I am so glad that you got out of the WT and were able to restore relationships with your parents.

  Mr Flipper - It is the worst thing in the world to be rejected time after time by our children who we love dearly. I know you have been trying for such a long time to get through to your daughters and I understand the hurt and frustration you feel. We have to be very strong to keep going. Right now I dont feel very strong though.

  Sweet Pea - Its raked everything up again for me and its at a difficult time with my ex dying. Hopefully I will feel stronger in a while. Thank you for the offer, I might take you up on it!

  fokyc - They really are loving, christian people!!

  Quietly leaving - Thank you
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  My wounds opened up badly today

  by Maddie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the past three weeks having been so stressful and very sad.

  my ex husband died after being in hospital for just over a week in intensive care.. i was just 18 and he was 21 when we first met and after a whirlwind romance we married 6 months later and have two sons together who are now adults.

  although our marriage ended after 25 years and i remarried 7 years ago, he was my first love and i knew him for most of my life.

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  Didgeridoo - How are you doing my friend? I dont know whether my son has other issues or resentments. In the past we have had conversations about lots of things but I dont believe it was this that caused him and his wife to behave as they did. My DIL is responsible for not letting me see my grand daughter and giving the toys back. Thats not to say that my son isnt as guilty as he should stand up to her and do what is right. Take care of yourself.

  JW daughter - Your suggestion of writing a letter to the local paper is a possibility I will think about because their behaviour is so bad. Perhaps it will make them realise that their behaviour is unnacceptable by anyones standards. Thank you.
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  My wounds opened up badly today

  by Maddie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the past three weeks having been so stressful and very sad.

  my ex husband died after being in hospital for just over a week in intensive care.. i was just 18 and he was 21 when we first met and after a whirlwind romance we married 6 months later and have two sons together who are now adults.

  although our marriage ended after 25 years and i remarried 7 years ago, he was my first love and i knew him for most of my life.

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  palmtree67, lancelink, baba Yaga, Bonnie_Clyde, Hope4Others, Satanus - Thank you all for caring and sending me your kind messages of support and love. It means a great deal to me to know that you are here for me.

  Quandry - It seems such a vague hope right now that my son will ever break free from the hold of the WT and see it for what it is, but that is all I can do because nothing I can say or do seems to have any effect. I dream of my grand daughter running to me with open arms when she is old enough and I try to hang on to that.

  Barbie Doll - I am so sorry for the pain that you went through with your grand children when they were younger, but am happy that you have your family back again now. Perhaps it will happen for me too one day. I will pm you, thank you.
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  My wounds opened up badly today

  by Maddie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the past three weeks having been so stressful and very sad.

  my ex husband died after being in hospital for just over a week in intensive care.. i was just 18 and he was 21 when we first met and after a whirlwind romance we married 6 months later and have two sons together who are now adults.

  although our marriage ended after 25 years and i remarried 7 years ago, he was my first love and i knew him for most of my life.

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  Hello Chalam - Thank you for your prayers, they are needed now.

  Journey-on - Hatred is such an awful thing and makes me shudder that it could be aimed at me. If the WT can cause this then it is truly evil.

  Chickpea - I pray that you never have to experience this kind of thing. Bless you lots too.

  Carla - All cults like this are wicked things and the thought that so many people trapped in them really upsets me.

  Co co - Thank you for caring

  restrangled - Thank you too for caring
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  My wounds opened up badly today

  by Maddie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the past three weeks having been so stressful and very sad.

  my ex husband died after being in hospital for just over a week in intensive care.. i was just 18 and he was 21 when we first met and after a whirlwind romance we married 6 months later and have two sons together who are now adults.

  although our marriage ended after 25 years and i remarried 7 years ago, he was my first love and i knew him for most of my life.

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  I am so grateful to you all who have replied to me with such kindness and understanding. It means so much to me right now to have your support, even though my husband is such a tower of strength to me.

  Snowbird - Thank you for your prayers and telling me I am loved. I love you all too.

  StAnn - Thank you for sharing your own experiences with me. They sound very similar to what is happening to me. The worst thing is the thought that my grand daughter will think me a bad person and that I didn't care about her. I will do what you suggest and maybe in years to come I will be able to show her I really loved her.

  Journey On - I am going to write her a letter as often as I can and store them safely. Thank you.

  Cordelia - My youngest son has tried to talk to him, but he just gets brushed off and told he doesn't understand, which makes him angry and feel like hitting my JW son. I am sure in my own mind that the extent of their treatment to me is down to my DIL and I know it probably wouldn't enter my sons mind to give me all the toys back.

  Scott77 - I dont know or understand either but think that the evil WT is behind it all. My son wasn't always like this but since he married has got more paranoid about demons and everyone outside the WT being evil. Thank you for assuring me of your love and support.

  Journey-on - I wonder the same things and just cant get to grips with their callous attitude. My husband even suspects my DIL wanted to parade my grand daughter in front of me to taunt me. I hate to even think that she is capable of such a thing, but sometimes I wonder.

  Maddie
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  My wounds opened up badly today

  by Maddie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the past three weeks having been so stressful and very sad.

  my ex husband died after being in hospital for just over a week in intensive care.. i was just 18 and he was 21 when we first met and after a whirlwind romance we married 6 months later and have two sons together who are now adults.

  although our marriage ended after 25 years and i remarried 7 years ago, he was my first love and i knew him for most of my life.

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  The past three weeks having been so stressful and very sad. My ex husband died after being in hospital for just over a week in intensive care.

  I was just 18 and he was 21 when we first met and after a whirlwind romance we married 6 months later and have two sons together who are now adults. Although our marriage ended after 25 years and I remarried 7 years ago, he was my first love and I knew him for most of my life. His sister and I have always been and still are very close. My youngest son is 23 which is very young to lose his dad and it breaks my heart to see and feel his sadness.

  My oldest son is a JW, married to a JW and they have a 22 month old daughter ( my only grand child). I have not been allowed any contact for a year now as they have shut me out of their lives completely since I told them some truths about the WT and stopped going to the KH. I have not been DF'd or officially DA'd but my son and DIL treat me the same anyway. My grand-daughter doesn't know me now as she was under 1 year old when I stopped seeing her.

  I have been coping well with the situation since finding strength, peace and hope again in Christianity. However, the funeral for my ex husband was held this morning and I feel a traumatised.

  My ex didn't have a partner when he died, so my JW son was arranging everything for the funeral, which would be a Humanist one as he wasn't religious. My son contacted me to ask for some help which I was very glad to give as I wanted to be able to contribute as much as I could. My husband is a wonderful man and said he would help too.

  It was three weeks until a date for the funeral could be set, as there had to be an autopsy first before the death certificate was released. During these weeks we have been talking to my son over the telephone and although it has been quite business-like, it has been quite pleasant just to talk with him and he seemed to be quite friendly.

  Yesterday ( day before the funeral), my husband had arranged to go over to my son's home to give him the cards that we had made as a tribute to his dad for everyone at the funeral to have. When he got there my son let him in ok, then presented my husband with two big bags of toys and other things that we had given to my grand-daughter previously and said that it wasn't appropriate for her to keep them. It felt like a stab in the back and rejection all over again, opened up the wounds and hurts very much.

  At the funeral reception today my son and dil brought their little girl and she has grown so much since I last saw her, running around and so beautiful but she doesn't know who I am any more. Neither of them came near me or my husband or spoke to us but it was seeing my grand-daughter that upset me the most. I kept quiet because the sad occasion and for the sake of my youngest son and the family but it was the hardest thing I have done for a very long time.

  My intuition tells me that my DIL is the force behind the way things are because she is controlling to the extreme, vengeful and terrified that my son will be influenced by me and others in the family to leave the WT. I say this because I have a pretty good idea how her mind works - even before all this she would go out of her way to make sure she was always present when I was with my son and make excuses to limit our getting together. Also I toldher she was controlling once when I was on the phone to my son and she snatched it off him. I believe her be resentful because I let her know I have got her measure and can stand up to her.

  Maddie
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  Could the Holy Spirit Lead in Opposition to the "Spirit-Directed" Organization?

  by compound complex in

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  of course, i realize that not all members of the board would have a belief-basis to answer the above.. for the sake of discussion, however, do you see examples - biblical [applicable in our day] or extra-biblical - wherein an individual intent on serving god in loyalty and truth could be directed by his spirit to act courageously against the society's enforced "conscience"?.

  thanks.. coco .

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  The Holy Spirit could, and most certainly does!

  Maddie
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  Are You Sorry?

  by Yizuman in

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jihgyjcji1g.

  are you sorry you knocked door to door?

  are you sorry you converted new members?

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  Yes I am sorry for telling people the "Truth", when it was really a lie. I am also undescribably sorry that my son believes that it is the "Truth".

  Maddie