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  The Gift of Speaking in Tongues?

  by Maddie in

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  with the increase in evangelical churches there seems to be a lot more emphasis on the practise of "speaking in tongues".

  i quite like the way these churches conduct services, with live music and great singing.

  it is so different to the kh meetings and like fresh air.

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  MUST OBEY - Would Jesus allow deception by demons? An interesting question because I don't think he would, unless the gifts aren't still available today and its the demons pretending they are.

  DINAH - Your friend felt at peace after the experience so it seems do many others.

  SNOOZY - As I said to MUST OBEY above - that is the biggest problem

  CHOOSING LIFE - Perhaps it was psychological if he had used LSD in the past. Maybe if he hadn't then the experience would of been pleasant - just a thought

  HMIKE - It would really be a turn-off for me if I was made to feel less "spiritual" - too much like being a JW and having the feeling of being judged.

  I attend a Pentecostal church, and I speak in tongues. I was never prayed for, nor was I in an excited emotional or mental state when this event happened about six months after the Lord saw fit to save me. I have only spoken in tongues during my personal prayer time, and it usually occurs when I am in deep intercession for people XJW4EVR - You sound very sincere and thats how I imagine it should be when it does happen.
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  The Gift of Speaking in Tongues?

  by Maddie in

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  2. friends

  with the increase in evangelical churches there seems to be a lot more emphasis on the practise of "speaking in tongues".

  i quite like the way these churches conduct services, with live music and great singing.

  it is so different to the kh meetings and like fresh air.

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  PEC - I agree that some are fakes (maybe most), but does that mean they all are?

  HEATHEN - If it is truly a gift from God then and abused to trick people for money then it is unforgiveable, just like the WT is a wicked deception.

  GETOVERIT - Perhaps your friend was convinced it was wrong by the people in her new church. Very sad if she truly experienced something beautiful.

  ERANDIR - I haven't actually seen it first hand so I may think the same thing if I do
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  The Gift of Speaking in Tongues?

  by Maddie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  with the increase in evangelical churches there seems to be a lot more emphasis on the practise of "speaking in tongues".

  i quite like the way these churches conduct services, with live music and great singing.

  it is so different to the kh meetings and like fresh air.

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  If you believe that God is good and He only gives good gifts to His sons and daughters then what is to fear?

  Chalam - I have thought about this before and that is one reason I started this thread. I know that there are many hang-overs from being a JW but that doesn't automatically mean that everything they say is wrong. As you will understand the last thing most of us want to do when getting out of the cult is to be drawn into another deception, so I try to take my time before coming to a conclusion. I am seeing the scriptures with new eyes now (if you know what I mean) which is interesting. Thank you for your post.

  Maddie
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  The Gift of Speaking in Tongues?

  by Maddie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  with the increase in evangelical churches there seems to be a lot more emphasis on the practise of "speaking in tongues".

  i quite like the way these churches conduct services, with live music and great singing.

  it is so different to the kh meetings and like fresh air.

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  Once had a person on the doors speak to me in tongues when I asked him if he could do it at will. That was creepy!

  Must obey:-

  That is creepy, perhaps he was just trying to be clever. Scriptually it is supposed to be a gift and not summoned at will or so I understand it.

  Maddie
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  The Gift of Speaking in Tongues?

  by Maddie in

  1. jw
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  with the increase in evangelical churches there seems to be a lot more emphasis on the practise of "speaking in tongues".

  i quite like the way these churches conduct services, with live music and great singing.

  it is so different to the kh meetings and like fresh air.

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  I'm doing it now while typing. I dont think I am full of any spirits at the moment, I havent even had a beer today.

  jaguarbass - Can't you take something for it? It sounds like a case of being a free "spirit

  Chalam - I know that people take the practice seriously and are sincere about it being a heavenly language. I am a bit intrigued by it I must admit, but still wary.

  "Yehono tosho mono tosho bono tosha mono taha. Yahono mono ma."

  LtDmc.Lore - I didn't know you cared

  I guess I'm saying that I have not been impressed with the "speaking of tongues" as a meaningful expression of Divine contact, though I can't say what the experience was like for the "speaker". I don't give see thespeaking in tongues as an important mark of inspiration

  VoidEater - It isn't a requirement for Christians according to scripture so maybe it gives a sense of comfort in drawing close to God, if thats what happens.

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  Newbie Hello

  by yomomma in

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  i am very new to the site and i'm sure there is a learning curve, so please bear with me.

  i have looked around a little and find the site very interesting and encouraging so far.

  it is heartwarming to meet other people with questions or experiences who can relate them without needing to hide behind blatant negativity or automatic judgemental attitudes.

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  Wecome yomomma to JWD

  It is good to have you with us and thank you for telling us about yourself. You will definitely find that many here are in the same difficult situation as yourself with JW family. Some try to fade so as not to lose their loved ones, whilst others make a clean break and DA or have been disfellowshipped for speaking out about the lies and deception of the WT. It is indeed cruel and evil to use emotional blackmail in the way they do.

  We look forward to more of your posts soon.

  Maddie
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  The Gift of Speaking in Tongues?

  by Maddie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  with the increase in evangelical churches there seems to be a lot more emphasis on the practise of "speaking in tongues".

  i quite like the way these churches conduct services, with live music and great singing.

  it is so different to the kh meetings and like fresh air.

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  Paul states that he who speaks in an unknown tongue edifies himself, but only prophesy (preaching) edifies the Church (1 Corinthians 14:4). Tongue speaking is not something that edifies the Church! He states that if any man speaks in an unknown tongue, that it must be by two or three at the most, and each in turn, one at a time (verse 27). In these Churches today, a lot of people babble and speak in tongues at the same time, and Paul says this should not be. Paul also says that there must be an interpreter (verse 27). But you never hear, in your own language, the interpretation of these tongues in these Churches. That is a direct contradiction of this scripture. Paul says if there is no interpreter, then the tongues must not be spoken in church! 1 Corinthians 14:28, "...let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God." If a man feels moved to speak in tongues, and there's no interpreter, then he should speak to himself and to God. Therefore, if a man feels moved to pray in tongues, by himself, then that is scripturallybased.

  In 1 Corinthians 14, Paul is elevating teaching and preaching over tongue speaking. In fact, Paul says that tongues are not a sign for believers, but for unbelievers (verse 22), while prophesy (preaching) is not for unbelievers, but for believers. So if people want to edify the Church, it is done through prophesy and teaching, and not through tongue speaking, according to scripture.

  Bumble Bee - You are right that if done in church scripture says there should be an interpreter, but it says that if there isn't one then it should be done alone. The church that I know about only practise it with a few of them in one of their homes as far as I am aware.

  Maddie
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  The Gift of Speaking in Tongues?

  by Maddie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  with the increase in evangelical churches there seems to be a lot more emphasis on the practise of "speaking in tongues".

  i quite like the way these churches conduct services, with live music and great singing.

  it is so different to the kh meetings and like fresh air.

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  VoidEater - I think the speaking in tongues signifies that they have been blessed with the Holy Spirit (in their opinion) ; it is direct communication from God that they are annointed Christians and pleasing to Him.

  What other ways are you thinking of? They also believe that some of the other gifts given at Pentecost are available to them such as healing, I believe.

  Maddie
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  The Gift of Speaking in Tongues?

  by Maddie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  with the increase in evangelical churches there seems to be a lot more emphasis on the practise of "speaking in tongues".

  i quite like the way these churches conduct services, with live music and great singing.

  it is so different to the kh meetings and like fresh air.

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  With the increase in Evangelical churches there seems to be a lot more emphasis on the practise of "speaking in tongues". I quite like the way these churches conduct services, with live music and great singing. It is so different to the KH meetings and like fresh air. The thing is though that I am wary of this apparent ability to speak in strange and unintelligable languages as it all seems weird to me. I haven't actually witnessed it but have seen it on TV and some people look like they are having a seizure. I suspect some work themselves up into a hysterical frenzy and it has nothing to do with God, although they beieve it is evidence of having the Holy Spirit.

  I would be interested to know what other posters think about this practise, or if any have been present when it has taken place.

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  The worst word in the English language

  by free2beme in

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  while there are words that we should not teach children and not use in a polite public environment, known as bad language.

  there is one word that gets passed around all the time and is probably the most hurtful and scary word out there.

  that would is metastasis.

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  I am very sorry to hear this

  Maddie