I am an alcoholic in recovery for over 10 years and take Paxil and have done for many years. Paxil has never caused me to crave alcohol.
Maddie
I am an alcoholic in recovery for over 10 years and take Paxil and have done for many years. Paxil has never caused me to crave alcohol.
Maddie
just taking a roll call here.
no empire lasts forever.
no system of government will last forever.
It's very simple for me to answer this question - I have no idea
Maddie
is it for "friendship"?.
to learn about jws?.
to play fun games like werewolf?.
Not to feel isolated with all the JW issues I have. My husband is supportive but has never been a JW or had any of his family or friends as JW's, so it is hard for him to know how I really feel.
Maddie
you know, we all like to talk about how awful the congregations we attended were, but at the end of the day, most of us are here because we need support letting go of our friends and family.
personally, i had and still do have occasionally (because i haven't faded yet) great times with some of my friends.
yeah, it's all based on our religion and they wouldn't be my friends if i didn't believe it.
What is tough is coming to the realisation that no matter how long and and "sincere"the friendships were in the borg, they count for absolutely nothing if we leave. The reality is that in a cult true friendship doesn't exist so I have to ask myself the question is it really worth worrying about?
Maddie
for me, it was joy.
i was raised in the religion, and i always figured i'd be dying along with 6 billion others because i hated the meetings, the preaching work and the rules, morality and threats of 'jehovah'.
i did not want it to be true.. for others here, finding out it was false was a hard time to go through.. as well as asking which feelings you had at first (joy/sorrow/or add your own) i have a follow up question for those who found it hard- what was it that made the impending deaths of 6 billion people okay for you?
I had so many conflicting emotions it is hard to separate them, but I felt sorrow, relief, disillusionment, and rage.
Maddie
recently we seem to have had a few different dramas and subsequent fallout on the fourm which i feel has detracted from its purpose.
with this in mind we have decided that we need to bring the forum back on track and as such we will be clamping down on a lot of the aggressive / insulting posts which have begun to become the norm for a few people.
we will also be clamping down on the paranoid assusation type of comments against newbies, if someone joins the fourm and you do not believe everything they post - so what, why do we need to hound them away with shouts of troll and fake etc, just ignore them if you dont beleive them.
Thank you Simon. I for one am very relieved to here this as I must confess I was very unsettled recently, even though I didn't get involved with any of it.
Maddie
who did you get along with better socially?
fellow jw's or 'worldly people'?.
how have your social interactions changed since leaving?.
I had a couple of nice non-JW friends and felt they were real friends
Maddie
i'm sorely tempted to picket the 2008 memorial.
i will go in disguise and carry a placard with the words :-.
"the governing body of jehovah's witnesses are false prophets.
DT - I would want a peaceful picket as I agree anything that comes over as intimidating is going to have a detrimental effect. It needs to be peaceful but powerful
BLONDIE - Thanks I never thought about these things, I'm very impulsive!
TULA & MOSHE - You've given me an idea about sound. I wonder how I can arrange it..........
DAWG - If you won't go in disguise then nor will I
OWENFIELDDREAMS - I don't mind giving some of my time to fight the borg. If it made one person stop and take notice I would be pleased. If not then at least I tried
MOMZCRAZY - If you go and partake make sure everyone sees
ABANDONED - I have made a note of all you said so thank you
KENNESON - I never did get to see anyone partake - ridiculous JW doctrine!
B_DESERTER - I like the psychology of using thought provoking questions instead of making direct statements. The JW's are taught to do that on the doors - use their own strategy
SATANS LITTLE HELPER - It doesn't have to be done in a crazy way
MICKEY MOUSE - Slogans can be very effective in selling products I agree, so can you think of some good ones for me please?
MKR - Thank you for the offer of nudity but it would surely shock the old dears!
CRUMPET - Yes it is vital that unsuspecting people become educated about the JW's and what they practice. A demo would only be a one off event I realise that.
TJ - "Religion is a snare and a racket" and "Millions will never die". Should really embarrass a few, and make a few stop and think.
AK - The last time I went to a Memorial I felt like I was actually refusing Jesus. It wasn't a nice way to feel.
i'm sorely tempted to picket the 2008 memorial.
i will go in disguise and carry a placard with the words :-.
"the governing body of jehovah's witnesses are false prophets.
I'm sorely tempted to picket the 2008 Memorial. I will go in disguise and carry a placard with the words :-
"THE GOVERNING BODY OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ARE FALSE PROPHETS
THEY ARE WOLVES IN SHEEPS CLOTHING
JESUS INVITED ALL TO BE IN HIS COVENANT
Who wants to join me? What would you like to put on a placard?
Maddie
in the 1960s my mother and father came to this country knowing one language, one religion, and what hard work ethics were.
they were in a complete aw of what america was like.
they came here with very little knowledge and very little monies, so wed be safe to say that they were very gullible right.
I find psychology very interesting myself and once told a JW that I would like to study the subject. Needless to say it didn't go down too well.
Maddie