If it wasn't for the fact that it most definately IS NOT the "Truth" and nothing but a lying, unloving, blasphemas cult, then I wouldn't of left.
Maddie
for me i think if it wasn't for the fact i'm gay, i'd still be an active witness.
this year, even my mum has said that it wouldn't be "appropriate" if i was to go to the memorial.
now the memorial is something i've never missed, so that kind of stings a bit.
If it wasn't for the fact that it most definately IS NOT the "Truth" and nothing but a lying, unloving, blasphemas cult, then I wouldn't of left.
Maddie
is because everything is getting automated.... anyone know if there is any truth to that?.
Its all about money with the WT.
Maddie
i am not a jehovah's witness but have been talking with a few jehovah's witnesses for about two months now, about once every week or every other week.
on saturday they came and we had 'bible study' (actually starting to go through what does the bible really teach?
), and as they left they gave us a list of their meeting times at the local congregation and invited us to observe the lord's evening meal with them on march 22.
Welcome ttw1981 I am a JW who doesn't go any more since I found out that they don't have the "truth". I went to the Memorial last year and had a terrible feeling come over me when the bread and wine came around and I passed it on without partaking. It was the first time I had felt that I was actually refusing Jesus'sacrifice by doing so. Before this I felt that I was doing the right thing because I was led to beieve that as I wasn't one of the 144,000 then I shouldn't have the bread and wine.
If I was you and wanted to go then I would have the bread and wine or they will think you believe that you aren't of the annointed class and confirm that they are right in their teaching IMO.
Maddie
sorry no offense but why do some ex-witnesses here join another group....we have a muslim {muhamed was given a koran by an angel in a cave?
}....we have some baptists etc......i researched the bible and found there are 1,000's of gospels not part of the bible...so what's the deal...."fool me once shame on you..fool me twice shame on me" or do you have a reason for continued belief in religion...i really wan't to know since iam agnostic and don't believe in god or evolution????
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I don't "belong" to any church since leaving the JW's. I am not too sure about my faith right now but I do know that belonging to a church isn't the most thing because no church has the absolute truth. That's what the JW's teach and that if your not one of them beware! I believe that faith and spirituality is personal and if the true church ever comes we will know.
well , my sister who is 56, a witness, suffered a stroke a few days ago and i saw her at the hospital yesterday from afternoon till mid evening.
she is doing better than a few days ago as she is able to finally move her right arm a little bit which she had not been able to wednesday after the stroke.
she can talk , but is still speaking with difficulty a bit .
I am sorry to hear of your sisters stroke Mr. Flipper but hope she makes a good recovery. Great that you have been reunited with your niece and nephew and are maintaining contact now.
i would like to give the full details of my leaving the jw's, but i don't have a lot of time at this moment.
basically i was raised in the organization and it drove me pretty insane bacause my father was an elder, mother a pioneer, sister a bethelite, etc.
so, i did the whole thing for a long time.
Welcome to JWD the Doc You are now able to live the life you choose instead of being in the mind control cult. Well done!
would you have had a good conscience at the meetings if you would have given or taken blood, and knowingly broken a jw law?.
basically, what i'm asking is, "would you have been able to have a good conscience as a jw, although you know you did something you deserve to get disfellowshipped for.. .
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At one time I would have felt guilty if not doing things JW approved. Now my conscience is my own again and not subject to others rules.
At this time in my life I have to say Yes
no holidays, no birthdays, no school sports, no "worldy" associations, no extracurriclar school activities whatsoever, no higher education, no smurfs, no harry potter, no speaking to family members who have been df'd or da'd, and of course, total control over one's free time, are all characteristics of the miserable cult of the watchtower.. it seems like depriving witnesses of all joy in life is the objective of the watchtower cult.
i'm no psychologist, but i can't help but believe the "joy deprivation" inflicted upon witnesses by the exploitive watchtower cult is part and parcel to their control objective.
it's a way to measure just how much control they have over folks, to ensure they will drink the kool aid at the right time and upon command.. i was born into this cult, and left it in my early teens, after a rather ugly period of defiance.
Well 144001 I will try to answer your question as I was a JW convert. Actually I have berated myself for joining the cult and that my son is an active JW. You obviously feel very unhappy (justifiably) that you didn't have a choice because you were born into it, and find it impossible to understand how a person can convert into such a cruel and miserable cult as an adult.
Firstly people don't join, they are recruited by sophisticated techniques which they are unaware of at the time. Converts are often intelligent, idealistic people looking for the answers to make the world a better place and have lost faith in human ability to bring this about. Many are vulnerable from life experiences and are offered the things they may have lost or never had in their lives such as belonging to a loving family, the promise that their sufferings will soon be at an end, and a chance to see their dead loved ones again in the new system.
In my own case I was intrigued as to the fact that JW's were prepared to go round to peoples houses without pay and answer all the questions that no one else had. I had never known any JW's before and had no religious knowledge previously to compare the NWT with. I did not have any awareness of cults or how they operated, so I was quite defenseless given my other vulnerabilities. When I was baptised I was not aware of the effect of DF and the terrible suffering caused by shunning. In fact I had never really heard of shunning as the JW's don't refer to it in that term. I certainly didn't think of it as the soul destroying cult that it is. I was only ever shown love, understanding, and given a hope that I had never had in my life before. I was thoroughly deceived.
I hope this helps you to understand why people join cults like the JW's.
Maddie
today we have political parties from the republic and democratic sides trying to get your vote so they can get the presidency.
but, can you really trust them?
how secure are you to have a man or woman lead us to a secure and peaceful future?
Even if I agree with everything you say, that doesn't alter the fact that the JW's is a mind control cult and isn't the approved organization of God.
Maddie