Don't shun her. Just don't choose to hang out with her anymore. People move in and out of friendships all the time and when they see each other on accident they simply make small talk and move on. Not everything has to be a dramatic event. I would not choose to hang out or converse seriously with someone who cannot think for themselves. But, I see no need to be mean to her unless she won't leave you alone.
Rocky_Girl
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Considering Shunning my JW Friend
by InterestedOne ini had a discussion with my jw friend during which i asked her why a rational person should believe the world is run by demons.
in response, she questioned the existence of objective rationality.
she said that we should "agree to disagree.
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FADERS: How determined are you?
by VampireDCLXV inafter being here on jwn for a while, one does see a spectrum of sorts.
there are people here in various stages of their exit from their lives as jws.
some are full fledged kh and fs attendees whom we call "the conscious class".
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Rocky_Girl
Your two new questions: #1- I am not DF and for a while I was worried about it because my parents still talk to me right now. But, we all know that even without the DF, the elders can pressure those still in to shun. My folks have tried a few times, but it hurts my mom not to see my kids (we have never been close) so she always apologizes for her hurtful words and invites us back. #2- The last time the elders came to my door (5th time in 10 days) I told them I would call the police next time they "dropped by" and report that two men were harassing me and, as a single mom living alone, I was afraid for my safety. They never came back and I haven't had to deal with any pressure to either come back or DA.
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I DONT want their help! :D
by TimothyT inhello people,.
despite the advice given here, i thought it only fair to tell the elders that are calling me to 'help me' with my sexuality, that i dont want their help!
yesterday one called.. he told me that he and another elder would like to speak with me to find out what the situation is.
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Rocky_Girl
I'm so glad that you have some support from family. Go be yourself and be happy!! So happy for you.
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FADERS: How determined are you?
by VampireDCLXV inafter being here on jwn for a while, one does see a spectrum of sorts.
there are people here in various stages of their exit from their lives as jws.
some are full fledged kh and fs attendees whom we call "the conscious class".
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Rocky_Girl
I will never go back. The only thing I miss is my extended family. But, they are in a different state, so it is only bad when they visit every few years. Their conditional love is not worth the intellectual and spiritual prison that is the Jehovah's Witnesses. I have been out for 12 years.
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Why do I no longer get attacked and persecuted by the demons, since I left JW,s ?
by pedal power inmost jw.s really believe that they ( as we once did ) are promoting gods will, but what if they really are ?
is it possible that god is supporting them even though they (governing body ) lie, because most jw,s are ignorant of the lies told on their behalf, ?.
when i was a jw i got attacked by the demons bigtime, but not now, and i can only assume that they (demons ) are happy that i am no longer a jw and are now leaving me alone, cant think of any other reason, has god ever supported a group who were similarly found wanting ?.
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Rocky_Girl
Depression can cause you to feel pain that isn't there. It can also cause you to mischaracterize other people's body language and tone of voice. I can see how it could cause someone to see something that isn't there if the fear of such things is present already.
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Why do I no longer get attacked and persecuted by the demons, since I left JW,s ?
by pedal power inmost jw.s really believe that they ( as we once did ) are promoting gods will, but what if they really are ?
is it possible that god is supporting them even though they (governing body ) lie, because most jw,s are ignorant of the lies told on their behalf, ?.
when i was a jw i got attacked by the demons bigtime, but not now, and i can only assume that they (demons ) are happy that i am no longer a jw and are now leaving me alone, cant think of any other reason, has god ever supported a group who were similarly found wanting ?.
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Rocky_Girl
The first time I said the rosary (after leaving JW obviously) I had my eyes closed and could see a white face staring at me about 3 inches away, so close that I felt suffocated. When I stopped praying and opened my eyes, it went away. When I started again, it came back. My JW mom said it was a demon who was praying with me to an idol. The nun at the church told me it was Mary showing herself and welcoming me into Christ's love. My Rabbi says that it was just a leftover image in my head after closing my eyes and the suffocated feeling was because I was nervous about praying differently than I was raised. Which one sounds reasonable? I do have a good demon story from childhood, though.
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How can I get past the anger?
by Rocky_Girl ini have gotten through so much of the anger i felt toward my parents for their part in my screwed up childhood.
i know they were just doing what they thought was right.
but now, as i celebrate holy and special days with my children i feel a new anger because i cannot give them the big family celebration they deserve.
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Rocky_Girl
Accepting anger is a difficult concept for me. I was raised to bottle it up and it is strange to feel it and let it out. I wonder if this is how a 13 year-old boy feels, LOL. I should take up kickboxing to work it out. After reading what you have all written, I can see that there is a lot to see below the surface. I know that it kills my mom not to join us. And I know that she just can't do it. It is an unnatural situation, completely created by this damn cult. Perhaps I will have the big family holiday someday, I will just be the old granny with great-grandbabies in my arms. Of course, until then I will just have to get by on alcohol and sex... Haha@ EP- your post made me laugh
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How can I get past the anger?
by Rocky_Girl ini have gotten through so much of the anger i felt toward my parents for their part in my screwed up childhood.
i know they were just doing what they thought was right.
but now, as i celebrate holy and special days with my children i feel a new anger because i cannot give them the big family celebration they deserve.
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Rocky_Girl
That Norman Rockwell picture is pretty nice :) I know it isn't really like that for anyone, but maybe a little closer. I left when I was 17 physically, 24 emotionally, and I've spent the last 7 years trying to figure out where I belong. At 31, I may have found it, I am just too scared to grab it - I don't want to end up stuck again. As far as being with my anger, I'm not sure what that means. I can't imagine being healthy while holding on to anger. Could you clarify W-A-C?
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How can I get past the anger?
by Rocky_Girl ini have gotten through so much of the anger i felt toward my parents for their part in my screwed up childhood.
i know they were just doing what they thought was right.
but now, as i celebrate holy and special days with my children i feel a new anger because i cannot give them the big family celebration they deserve.
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Rocky_Girl
Yeah :) we do. It is pretty amazing to see my kids' happy faces when we are celebrating. It is so amazing to be able to give them that joy. How long have you been out, Jackie?
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How can I get past the anger?
by Rocky_Girl ini have gotten through so much of the anger i felt toward my parents for their part in my screwed up childhood.
i know they were just doing what they thought was right.
but now, as i celebrate holy and special days with my children i feel a new anger because i cannot give them the big family celebration they deserve.
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Rocky_Girl
I can never get paragraphs to work when I post with my BlackBerry. I am grateful that my parents have not shunned me after leaving. Especially since I have been associating with another faith. I am very lucky. And selfish. I want it all... I need to look at the positive more than the negative.