Posts by skeeder

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Do you find the Jan 15-08 WT disturbing?

by cultswatter in

i have now read the jan 15-08 about 3 times.

every time that i do, i get madder and madder.

here are some things that i find disturbing.

skeeder

I find every issue disturbing.

The WT study a few weeks ago gave a wonderful example of somebody who quit a good job and started selling ice cream from a cart on the street. The writers really live in another world of make believe.

S

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NEED HELP WITH 'NEW LIGHT' & THE GENERATION DOCTRINE

by Mary in

i was talking to gumby today and he told me that one elder that he knows said: "...he heard a gb mention of some new light about the "generation".

he said the gb member said they now believe that scripture applied to only the annointed...".

have we had any discussions on jwd about this?

skeeder

It's been recently noted that the borg will not publish their year end statistics in the WT anymore, I sense they must not look good

Did they give a reason why they weren't publishing it anymore?

Page 3 of new WT

The annual report will no longer appear in The Watchtower. Starting in 2008, it will appear as an insert in Our Kingdom Ministry as well as in the Yearbook. However, as indicated above, the study edition does include secondary articles. Although many of these will not be discussed at a congregation meeting, you are encouraged to read them carefully. They too contain spiritual food from "the faithful and discreet slave." -Matt. 24:45-47.

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I know I'm slow, but help me out on this new 144k thing-ie

by dawg in

ok, so the may 1st wt says that elders aren't to question anyone who partakes.

but many of you have posted that they are about to rule change about the 144k... haven't they already changed the dogma if elders can't question... doesn't that mean anyone can partake?

so what changes are going to occur that are more shocking then the generation of 1935 thing and whatnot?.

skeeder

are they now saying they'res no longer going to be a 144K

August 15, 1996 Watchtower in the following 'Questions From Readers" article.

Questions

FromReaders

The

reportsforsomeyearsshowthatthenumberpartaking

oftheMemorialemblemsincreasedslightly.

Doesthissuggestthatmanynewonesarebeinganointedwithholyspirit?

There is good reason to believe that the number of 144,000 anointed Christians was complete decades ago.

After 1966 until now, if one came to be of the annointed, they were replacing one who had fallen away. Period.

Now , if one comes to be of the annointed, they can be added to the current number without regard to any falling away or dying..

So it leaves it totally open ended when the calling of the 144K will be completed.

But they still hold to the number 144K.

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"The FDS and its GB" - REVISION 2

by Doug Mason in

i have just released version 2 of my study, the faithful and discreet slave and its governing body.

it is available at:.

http://www.filesend.net/download.php?f=7a0e4eafda05807501122222b5733db2i would appreciate information on any corrections omissions.doug

skeeder

Thanks, Doug

Got the download. This is super.

S

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Have You Divorced And/Or Remarried- What Did You Learn From It ?

by flipper in

jw
friends

in seeing a lot of posters threads , i feel i see many people who have been divorced at one time , and either have remarried or have stayed single .

i totally understand those who choose to stay single, as i was single for 6 years before i got married again !

as experts say, next to death it's one of the hardest experiences you'll go through !

skeeder

I learned the hard way what 'too soon' means. NEVER, EVER make a new committment until you have allowed time to be sure what your relationship is with the ex-mate.

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Reply to Prodigal Son e-mail

by skeeder in

i sent an e-mail to someone with points showing how jw's miss the point of the parable.

i won't post it but if anyone wants to read it, you can pm me.. here is the reply from a supposed loyal , faithful witness.. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------.

i have had your email in my inbox for awhile now, and today i just had the chance to read it.

skeeder

Mary

Thanks for the link.

That really IS an excellent article I had never seen.

I think this point is awesome---------IN RED

2 John 8-10) . . .. 9 Everyone that pushes ahead and does not remain in the teaching of the Christ does not have God. He that does remain in this teaching is the one that has both the Father and the Son. 10 If anyone comes to YOU and does not bring this teaching, never receive him into YOUR homes or say a greeting to him. . .

If the scripture at 2 John 10 were observed literally by Jehovah's Witnesses, they would be obliged to never invite anyone other than a Jehovah's Witness in good standing into their home, or ever speak a greeting to anyone other than a Jehovah's Witness.

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Noah's preaching--"they took no note"

by skeeder in

the bible calls noah a preacher of righteousness.

however, it gives no indication that he undertook a global campaign to warn people of a coming flood of which they 'took no note'.. in gen chap 6 god gave noah very detailed instructions about building the ark.

in 6:18 and 7:1 he gave specific instructions about who to take into the ark.

skeeder

avidbiblereader

Noah warned the world of God’s righteous judgment.

But not "Noah warned the world of a coming global flood

S

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Reply to Prodigal Son e-mail

by skeeder in

i sent an e-mail to someone with points showing how jw's miss the point of the parable.

i won't post it but if anyone wants to read it, you can pm me.. here is the reply from a supposed loyal , faithful witness.. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------.

i have had your email in my inbox for awhile now, and today i just had the chance to read it.

skeeder

Why would you pick the prodigal son or disfellowshippment for a debate?

I have gotten to the point where I really don't care what they teach or do except where it has a bad effect on people's lives. An effect that is beyond their control.

If a person is trying to live a Christian life and is in fact doing so as well as the other JW's, and they are still shunned while the JC is waiting for more proof of repentance, I have a passion to help anyone I can to see that this is wrong.

I don't have a passion for most of the other stuff.

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Reply to Prodigal Son e-mail

by skeeder in

i sent an e-mail to someone with points showing how jw's miss the point of the parable.

i won't post it but if anyone wants to read it, you can pm me.. here is the reply from a supposed loyal , faithful witness.. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------.

i have had your email in my inbox for awhile now, and today i just had the chance to read it.

skeeder

You know they have some sembelance of scriptual support for this pratice?

Actually the Prod Son wasn't DF'd.

My point is the reinstatement process does not resemble in principle the way the father dealt with him.

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Reply to Prodigal Son e-mail

by skeeder in

i sent an e-mail to someone with points showing how jw's miss the point of the parable.

i won't post it but if anyone wants to read it, you can pm me.. here is the reply from a supposed loyal , faithful witness.. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------.

i have had your email in my inbox for awhile now, and today i just had the chance to read it.

skeeder

I sent an e-mail to someone with points showing how JW's miss the point of the parable. I won't post it but if anyone wants to read it, you can pm me.

Here is the reply from a supposed loyal , faithful Witness.

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I have had your email in my inbox for awhile now, and today I just had the chance to read it. I must say that I find it somewhat cowardly how you have attacked my religious beliefs while maintaining your aninimity. I don't have a lot of time to reason with unreasonable people so I will be very brief. You come from the pretend "Christian" churches that follow christ's example only in word. But in reality you're actions prove that you're in no way christian. If you were familiar with the scriptures you would know that the practice of disfellowshipping is a practice that we were advised to practice. 1 Cor. 5:11, Ecc. 9:18, 1 Cor. 5:13. Jesus himself even rebuked the congregation in Thyatira for tolerating a woman named Jezebel. Rev. 2:20. Know too that noone is disfellowshipped from the congregation for any reason other than unrepentance. I know that none of this matters to you. Even if you are confronted with the obvious fact that disfellowshipping is how the bible tells us to correct ones and keep the congregation pure, you will still say it is wrong because you are weak. You are no doubt a fine christian until the heat gets turned up. Then you are a coward. Your religious practices are all an act. I want to point out too that you have missed the entire point of the story of the prodigal son. The prodigal son was welcomed back to his father's household AFTER he had changed his ways. That's the whole point of the parable. Do you think the father would have been so happy to greet his son if he had showed up staggering drunk with a prostitute on his arm? Come on. Do you not see how twisted your logic is? You should speak to someone who has been disfellowshipped and then welcomed back into the congregation after making changes in their lives. More often than not they will tell you that it was the best thing that could have happened to them. Still, this is not the main point. The reason that Jehovah's Witnesses practice this is because God tells us to. I think we'll follow his guidance and not yours. I hope that you can someday get past your hatred for Jehovah's Witnesses, and your overall bitterness in general.