Posts by ldrnomo

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This was my 'Sign'

by MsGrowingGirl20 in

jw
friends

in my previous post i mentioned that i'm staying in the org because i think i got a sign from god...some of you asked a lot of questions about my sign and even shared the society's view on asking for signs which i didn't know.. i didn't disclose exactly what the sign was.. some of you asked me what it was and even stated that i know that you all would pick apart and prove that my sign was just a frivolous excuse to hold on to the org.. maybe you were right.. so i've decided to tell you all exactly what it was---no embellishments or exaggerations.

i would love to hear your opinions since i'm still in a terrible mess.sometimes i'm 100% this is not the truth then other times i'm 60%....i feel if god was giving me a sign i'd be 100% this is the truth you know?.

so i woke up that morning and organized to go meeting.

ldrnomo

I really think that these very loving people, who are on this great forum and giving you some good advice, are your sign.

Just the fact that you are here on this forum and learning the truth about the "truth" is your way of reaching out to God and asking him for a clearer pathway to his truth, whatever that may be.

Those comments that were made by the MS and the Public Speaker was all (pre-recorded at the Watchtower Headquarters) carefully worded propaganda. And the fact that the talk was changed at the last minute and you walked in on the word "doubts" was in my opinion coincedence.

When one is having a serious issue within themselves and they start looking for signs, they super sensitize their emotional parts of the brain and start becoming aware of anything that points to their issue. In some cases that can be a good thing for example: if one has heavy financial issues and they pray, or for some other reason look for a sign. they will be super sensitized to see things pointing to a way out of their financial problems they may see an add for a budget planning company and getting their help to get out of debt. On the other hand someone may come along with some pyramid scheme and they are immediatly sucked in.

I know it's not the greatest comparison but I hope you get the idea.

The point is, I don't believe God is in some way throwing things out in front of you to get you to stay in the Watchtower Organization. However, if that is what you want to read into a few random things that pointed to the troubles going on in your mind. Then that is what you should do. But be careful because giving control of your life to anyone and you are giving your life over to the WT and not to God (just check the baptism question http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/18087/1/Baptismal-Questions-why-the-change as it now exists).

Your Choice

If you choose the Watchtower, your better stop coming to this forum. They forbid it. If you choose to continue exploring your beliefs and want a wide array of ideas and opinions then use this forum to make discoveries in thought and use every possible tool out there to discover new ideas, new possisbilites to start your search I think there is a Bible scriptue that talks about searching but never finding somthing about gold in there too

Any way, the best to you

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New Experience Of The Carjacker & The Jehovah's Witness

by minimus in

jw
friends

my mom told me this as it was related to her.. a witness is suddenly carjacked!

the man tells the sister he is there to steal her car!

she begs him not to take the car as it is the one she uses to take her elderly mom to the doctors.

ldrnomo

Maybe that's why the bORG lost thier court case to Candace Conti.

They didn't have a watchtower and awake magazing on a desk close to the jury so they could see them.

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WT Study for 6-17-12

by Bobcat in

i did not see a thread on the 6-17-12 wt study article, so i thought i'd put this here.. .

this is just a thought on unquoted references that sheds a little "light" on why they are not sourced.. in paragraph 4 of the lesson it says: 'as one reference work states, it is "the sum total of the interior man.

"' it is referring to what the bible means when it speaks of the figurative heart.

ldrnomo

I don't know about you but I know I would defininetly have some emotional problems after having my heart removed and a new strangers heart put in.

I don't think it's caused by anything other than our mind telling us, " this is a serious thing"

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WT Study for 6-17-12

by Bobcat in

i did not see a thread on the 6-17-12 wt study article, so i thought i'd put this here.. .

this is just a thought on unquoted references that sheds a little "light" on why they are not sourced.. in paragraph 4 of the lesson it says: 'as one reference work states, it is "the sum total of the interior man.

"' it is referring to what the bible means when it speaks of the figurative heart.

ldrnomo

I don't know about you but I know I would defininetly have some emotional problems after having my heart removed and a new strangers heart put in.

I don't think it's caused by anything other than our mind telling us, " this is a serious thing"

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Which philosophy would you personally value the highest and why?

by Qcmbr in

thinking about the number of atheist v ag/tec/fhn/sab threads (hehe - i'm only yanking your chains!

) and i thought i should make an effort to look at and discuss the rest of the rainbow.

atheism does not define my influencing primary worldview though you'd be hard pressed to see that from my posts.. i'd be interested in what philosphy , idea, rule(s) most influence you and why - why do you feel they are superior, what do they make you value more or less , what would you be without your philosophy.

ldrnomo

Positive thinking and living in the moment with an open mind

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Which philosophy would you personally value the highest and why?

by Qcmbr in

thinking about the number of atheist v ag/tec/fhn/sab threads (hehe - i'm only yanking your chains!

) and i thought i should make an effort to look at and discuss the rest of the rainbow.

atheism does not define my influencing primary worldview though you'd be hard pressed to see that from my posts.. i'd be interested in what philosphy , idea, rule(s) most influence you and why - why do you feel they are superior, what do they make you value more or less , what would you be without your philosophy.

ldrnomo

Positive thinking and living in the moment with an open mind

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Did anyone else get somewhat offended by the term "rank and file" that the WT attorney used.

by life is to short in

i was just surprised by that term being used by jim mccabe when he said "jonathan kendrick was not a leader or a pastor, he was just a rank-and-file member.".

i thought that was only an apostate term and also what a put down to us lowly members.

we are just a rank-and-file person.

ldrnomo

I wonder now if at a person's baptism they will be told they are now ordained ministers of the good news?

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Candace Conti video on YouTube - let's send it viral!

by cedars in

i've uploaded a video that discusses the dramatic jury verdict regarding the abuse suffered by candace conti, of which you are all aware.

if you're not yet familiar with the story for any reason, please check out my blog article on the link below.... http://jwsurvey.org/general-information/the-watchtower-punished-society-loses-legal-battle-over-child-abuse-case.

john hoyle suggested i get a youtube video out fairly quickly so that we can spread the message more effectively online.

ldrnomo

Nice work cedars. Simple easy to understand and to the point. great voiceover.

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Do you now have a customized religion?

by losthobbit in

i was never a jw.

i was a member of the church of christ.

i didn't jump from christian to non-believer, but rather went through a transition period, and i'd guess that all of you did the same,... changing beliefs bit by bit until you believe what you do now.. when i first realized that there were logic problems in the bible i started to find excuses for those problems.

ldrnomo

I am now in the "It is What it is" religion.

somthing bad happens in life, "It is what it is"

a death in the family, "It is what it is"

Evolution or creation, "It is what it is"

A God, no God, or wicked spirits that rule the world, "It is what it is"

As yet nobodies called me on it because, yes you guessed it, "It is what it is"

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From a currently serving elder: an open letter to the organization

by elderelite in

there are 1000's who who hate this religion who are stuck ....inside it.

we work against you, we use our position to convince and sway those that still drink your koolaid.

we feed info to authorities who chase you, we warn off potiential converts by directing them to the real truth.

ldrnomo

minimus said: Nice letter but they don't care

I think your probably right. On some level they don't care. Their convinced that no matter what happens, it's Jehovah's organization and he (Jah) will take care of matters.

However it does confirm to them that there is a higher level of infiltration then they hoped there would be.

There weakest point is their elders and ministerial servants. Many of them are uneducated, struggling to make a living, dealing with emotional problems like anxiety, depression and martial problems. They have doubts about the doctrines of the organization. The GB has the least amount of control with this group. A CO visit twice a year is all most get throw in a few assemblies to keep them in view and that's it

The elders are the weakest link in the chain of command, they are the clay mixing with the iron at the toes of the WT beast when they start to crumble, the beast will come down.

Bravo for all of you who are stayiing active and helping from the inside. I could have never done it I wouldn't be able to bite my tongue hard enough to keep me from talking. Plus I don't know how you can stand the boredom of all those meetings and door to door meanderings.

Thank You, I hope the army inside keeps growing