Depends on what your tolerance is for pressure, sales (especially car sales) is mega-pressure with lots of dubious "acting" thrown in if you really want to perform.
Don't get me wrong, you can make a truckload of money doing it and some people have perfect personalities for it, but I found that my numbers never matched the top performers because I could never fully immerse myself in the mindset.
In a way, it's very much like the JWs, only instead of an elder noticing your field service report slipping it'll be the finance manager giving you "the talk" about how come you're not performing. Expect lots of aggressive pep-rallying and pressure to bend your ethics in order to close the deal with a healthy margin for the finance dept.
Don't burn your bridges as you jump into this new career and make sure you keep some options open while you try it for the first few months.
After working sales for so long, I'm coming to the realization that being able to sleep soundly is worth more than fat commissions.
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i'm so freaking nervous
by bigdreaux inwell, as some of you know, i've hung up my tools and am leaving the mechanic world.
i start my new career tomorrow.
i am going into new car sales.
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As a JW were you ever counseled about clothes you wore, or lack thereof ?
by flipper inthought this could get interesting discussing experiences.
i for one was trying to reach out for ministerial servant again in the early 90's , had been one before, and was assigned to carry the microphones one meeting.
had an elder call me in the back room and say , " brother flipper, i noticed looking down towards your shoes that you are wearing white socks today.
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I never got counseled about clothing (except for not bothering with the jacket anymore, but nobody really cared about that) but I DID get a talking-down to after I shaved my head.
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Evil JW tortured children WARNING: Graphic Descriptions
by Nemesis ini just found this very disturbing new article.
heres the link, but these links dont last long on the mails site, so here is the text if the link goes down:.
link: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=443589&in_page_id=1770&ct=5.
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Do you have a reference on that, candidlynuts?
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2007- Witness Meetings= Why can't women wear pants/trousers??
by Witness 007 inwhen my mum went to her first meeting she was dressed to perfection, she wore nice ladies dress trouser/pants.
the witness stuying with her told her it was "not apropriate" to wear this to the meeting...in 2006 i was in a congregation where a sister would put a skirt on over her pants she wore to work.
it looked weird, but the pants ban still is in force 2007.
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Wear a Dashiki. In my last cong there were a number of brothers from Nigeria and other parts of Africa that wore them because they're considered dress wear in their home congregations and nothing beats them in hot weather.
It's basically a loose-fitting airy open-necked robe worn over light trousers and optional headgear. A (non-african, white as a cottonball) friend of mine bought one and successfully wore it to meetings but I don't think he was allowed onstage with it.
Of course, I've been fed up with the "society's" unwritten talmud of pharisaical rules for a while now so I could care less if they mandated lederhosen onstage.
Show me in the bible that men must wear ties when preaching the word or that shorts are un-christian attire when going out for supper after an assembly.
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Evil JW tortured children WARNING: Graphic Descriptions
by Nemesis ini just found this very disturbing new article.
heres the link, but these links dont last long on the mails site, so here is the text if the link goes down:.
link: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=443589&in_page_id=1770&ct=5.
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marmot
That's a sick puppy regardless of JW affiliation or not.
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Cain and Abel - where did they get the idea of a burnt offering?
by truthseeker init has always puzzled me why abel, a herder of sheep, would want to kill his own animals to offer them up to god.. prior to the flood, it would be fair to say that no one ate meat.
maybe they did, maybe they didn't, but assuming that meat.
was not eaten, why would abel's offering be better than cain's offering?.
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Aye, there's the rub. "These are stories..."
I don't believe any of the first few chapters of Genesis was fact, but simply embellished folklore for the moral instruction of its readers. If you go by a literal interpretation, God was the first arms dealer. After all, he put "a flaming sword" in front of the entrance to the garden of Eden, right? Or did Adam invent swords prior to that and God thought it was a neat idea? -
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Newsweek/Washington Post on JWs - Make Your Comment!
by V inplease comment on the actual site, give a witness!.
http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/willis_e_elliott/2007/09/freedom_to_speak_courage_to_wi.html.
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Reply to what? That was the most bring piece of writing I've ever been subjected to, and I've read both first AND second Chronicles.
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Tomorrow will be one of the PROUDEST days of my life.
by nicolaou iniv'e been posting here a long time but here's something i never shared before .
i'm still a window cleaner.
i'm not going to rant at the 'society' because they don't own my anger anymore but my work is certainly a legacy of my cult past.
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Good on ya. I always wonder what my Dad would have been capable of. He once confided in me that he would have like to go to University to become an engineer.
Instead he pioneered, washed windows, had four kids and lived most of his life in debt 'cause "Armageddon was just around the bend."
Funny, I remember starting my first day of kindergarten way back in 1988 and when I asked about the high-schoolers next door my mom told me not to worry about that "because the new system will be here before you're in high school."
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Do those of you "born into the truth" have problems with relationships?
by marmot ini'm a 4th generation dub and i was the epitome of a goodie-two-shoes elder's son.
i was taught/brainwashed that dating was evil and only for mature brothers (i distinctly remember a part on the assembly with a "demonstration" that said even 24 years old was too young to date and you should concentrate on becoming a ms or pioneer first) and went through so much soul-destroying guilt because of the society's utterly ridiculous stance on masturbation that it almost drove me to suicide.
didn't help that my father the elder had a massive porn stash.
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Sorry for the huge paragraph, all my formatting seems to have been lost. How do I add line breaks and other stuff?
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Do those of you "born into the truth" have problems with relationships?
by marmot ini'm a 4th generation dub and i was the epitome of a goodie-two-shoes elder's son.
i was taught/brainwashed that dating was evil and only for mature brothers (i distinctly remember a part on the assembly with a "demonstration" that said even 24 years old was too young to date and you should concentrate on becoming a ms or pioneer first) and went through so much soul-destroying guilt because of the society's utterly ridiculous stance on masturbation that it almost drove me to suicide.
didn't help that my father the elder had a massive porn stash.
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I'm a 4th generation dub and I was the epitome of a goodie-two-shoes elder's son. I was taught/brainwashed that dating was evil and only for mature brothers (I distinctly remember a part on the assembly with a "demonstration" that said even 24 years old was too young to date and you should concentrate on becoming a MS or pioneer first) and went through so much soul-destroying guilt because of the society's utterly ridiculous stance on masturbation that it almost drove me to suicide. Didn't help that my father the elder had a massive porn stash.
Heck, I think the main thing that drove me to baptism at age 12 was to get a "clean slate" before God because of my "unclean habit"...yeah, THAT lasted all of of two weeks.
All the younger ones around me in the congregation that were dating and getting married early were supposed to be "bad association" so I was further and further forced into an unnatural, unhealthy frame of mind. Once I started college I tried to break free but, unfortunately, the elder's daughter I fell in love with was just as brainwashed and she broke my heart, badly. More depression and attempted suicide. I changed congregations and tried to get all whipped up into a zealous frenzy again, even ignoring the very troubling doubts I was having regarding some of the Society's teachings, but depression (now properly diagnosed as Bipolar II disorder) would regularly set in and prevent me from doing as much as the brothers wanted me to. Then, the C.O. visit put a nice big cherry on my shit sunday when he used the local needs talk to basically tell the young sisters not to date anyone who wasn't a MS. He was hoping to grab the young brothers by their balls to get them motivated to "reach out" but for me - who couldn't put in the hours of hypocritical field service or fake the talks on the platform anymore - it pushed me over the edge.
I tried my best to get disfellowshipped last summmer - smoked pot, lived with worldly people all summer, didn't go to a single meeting, drank myself stupid - but I convinced myself to come back for the sake of my family and sat through hours of humiliating elder's meetings to show repentance. Ironically, the one thing I didn't do last summer was immorality. My upbringing and previous experiences opening my heart up to a girl has left me severely dysfunctional when it comes to relationships.
Even now that I'm almost done fading out again, I can't bring myself to ask a girl out. I'm twenty five and haven't so much as held a girl's hand, let alone kiss or anything past that.