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  Worried for sister

  by msiajw in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i hope you don't mind me posting.

  my sister has been a witness for it must be 25 years.

  when they came calling years ago she was at a low ebb and had been trying to read the bible but failing to understand it.

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  marmot

  It's a tough situation and the reality of the matter is that there's nothing you can do to "make" her see, she has to come to her own conclusions.
  
  I feel the same way when I try to talk to my parents. I could present irrefutable iron-clad proof to them but they would still dismiss it because in their mind they want it, even NEED it to be true.
  
  Just have patience and always be there for her.
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  What Mormons Could Teach The Watchtower

  by metatron in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the mormons are one of history's most amazing demonstrations of the power of sticking to a story and.

  getting people to believe in nonsense by well maintained habit.

  or as they observed on "south park".

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  marmot

  StillaJWexelder, it is in a way, but it's a bit cynical too. Think about it, who else encourages higher education?
  
  Government.
  
  Why?
  
  Taxes.
  
  Higher income means more income taxes. Now when you take into account the fact that Mormons adhere to strict tithing rules it makes sense a bit more sense.
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  Where the Bible Got It Right- An Atheist's Perspective On Love and Altruism

  by nvrgnbk in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  let your love be genuine.

  good verses in the bible.

  there is an old saying to the effect that the two topics you should never discuss with your friends are politics and religion.

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  marmot

  I'm an atheist but I still practice Jesus' teachings. I also see a lot of worth in Buddhist teachings as well.
  
  I also like Buckaroo Banzai: "Wherever you go, there you are."
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  A changing trend in Watchtower teaching??????

  by TooBad TooSad in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for the last year or so i have been sensing a change in the wording of articles in the.

  watchtower, awake, and km's but i could not put my finger on it until i read the.

  november 2007 our kingdom ministry.

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  marmot

  Bonnie_Clyde, the same thing happened with my grandmother. Faithfully attended all the meetings but when she got sick she didn't get a single visit from ANY of the elders in the congregation. My father had to get on the phone and try to guilt them into coming but they didn't even bother until the funeral (which we DIDN'T hold at the kingdom hall).
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  Songs most likely on OBVES Ipod

  by kerj2leev in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_ikcml_a9a.

  this has to be on it!.

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  marmot

  Cypress Hill - "Insane in the Brain"
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK33KD7j_nc
  
  Blind Melon - "Three is a magic number"
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPzAjiLr5Zw
  
  Violent femmes - "Add it up"
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHapDS2fcFE
  
  The Pixies - "Monkey Gone to Heaven" (skip ahead to 1:50 for the relevant bits)
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuzAliTr40E
  
  The Streets - "Deluded in my mind"
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHaTMOkRGN8
  
  And of course, Patsy Cline - "Crazy" (although he only listens to the first verse, over and over and over...)
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wysJ7KeGpX4
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  What Kind of Woman Do you Men Really Want in a Relationship ?

  by flipper in

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  2. friends

  so guys.

  i know all the old cliches, all the good women are taken !

  but it's just not true !

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  marmot

  I want someone who wants me.
  
  That's all, I can put up with the rest.
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  DO JWS BELIEVE IN HYPER-EVOLUTION?

  by badboy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for there to be such variety of animals,wouldn't their have to be hyper-evolution?.

  some animals in the same species have different numbers of chromosomes.. it is reckone that only 6 genetic changes(nucleotide?

  ) can happen in a generation, otherwise genetic instability would occur..

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  marmot

  Jaguarbass, if you want a good website then check out http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/faqs.html
  
  There is a wealth of material on there, all annotated with proper sources for further reading.
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  DO JWS BELIEVE IN HYPER-EVOLUTION?

  by badboy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for there to be such variety of animals,wouldn't their have to be hyper-evolution?.

  some animals in the same species have different numbers of chromosomes.. it is reckone that only 6 genetic changes(nucleotide?

  ) can happen in a generation, otherwise genetic instability would occur..

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  Satanus, here's some good information regarding what you brought up:
  
  http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/section2.html#morphological_vestiges
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  DO JWS BELIEVE IN HYPER-EVOLUTION?

  by badboy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for there to be such variety of animals,wouldn't their have to be hyper-evolution?.

  some animals in the same species have different numbers of chromosomes.. it is reckone that only 6 genetic changes(nucleotide?

  ) can happen in a generation, otherwise genetic instability would occur..

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  Yes, but they won't admit it.
  
  Noah supposedly took only "kinds" onto the ark. These "kinds" were supposedly proto-species that multiplied and diversified into the species we have today.
  
  And marsupials were invented by Satan to confuse you.
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  This WT article makes me mad.... this is evil

  by dawg in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  it's bad enought that young people in the wt have to sell magizines, risk shunning when they find out the truth about the gb... but this article really makes me laugh and angry at the same time.

  the part that made me the maddest was when the father said he "conquered" the habit, lying bastard!

  http://www.watchtower.org/e/200611a/article_01.htm.

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  Although I don't believe in the Bible, I find the Watchtower's interpretation of scripture to justify their stance on masturbation to be tenuous and offensive.
  
  I simply cannot believe that an activity so universal was never directly mentioned A SINGLE TIME in the entire Bible, much less condemned as unclean. The mosaic law only mentions men being "unclean" until the evening if they had a seminal emission, which could also be the result of regular sexual intercourse or a wet dream. I'm imagining that the camp of the Israelites must have pretty devoid of teenage boys during daylight hours. However, this fails to address the issue of female masturbation, or pre-puberty masturbation where there is no ejaculate.
  
  As for them tying it to the apostle Paul's words on "unclean habits", why would he have suddenly stepped up to the plate to condemn something that had never been directly condemned in the Bible? It doesn't help that the wording is so vague he could have been talking about picking your nose.
  
  The Watchtower's ban on masturbation is not so much a question of pleasing God but rather leftovers of Victorian-era attitudes towards sexuality, coupled with a desire for complete control over their adherents. It is shameful that this policy leads to so much guilt and depression among young people who are misled into believing that they are displeasing God by simply doing something that comes naturally as part of sexual development.