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  My first gun

  by LivingTheDream in

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  my first gun.

  i realize that not all jws avoid guns.

  if you live where they hunt for food, it was ok to have guns as a jw.

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  marmot

  In Canada it's rather complicated to own a handgun but I bought a nice little .22 rifle for my fiancée for her birthday. Next purchase is going to be a shotgun for shooting clays. I have no interest in home defense since it's essentially illegal to use a firearm for that purpose anyway.
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  Design or Non-Design, finally we know, Darwin's Doubt

  by QC in

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  if you want to read the definitive explanation on fossils and how life arrived its covered in darwins doubt, by s.c. meyer.

  this is a game changer.

  the bomb!.

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  marmot

  On the topic of old world vs new world monkeys, do some research on dentition patterns and prehensile tails. This was like a sledgehammer to my closely-held WT view on evolution.
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  STRAIGHT FROM THE HORSE'S MOUTH! Possible shift in position from the WTBTS on the global vs local deluge.

  by marmot in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a buddy of mine recently sent me a link to the official wtbts facebook page and i thought what the hey, let's see what they have to say about the question that made me fade in the first place.

  much to my surprise, they answered!

  you may already be aware that the general position of jehovah's witnesses is briefly stated here:.

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  marmot

  GCS7000 wrote:

  Proof that not everyone who posts here has both oars in the water.

  You know what, jackass? I've been out of the cult for five years happily living my life and not generally giving a crap about the witnesses so excuse me if I'm out of the loop when it concerns their official stance on facebook. The mormons seem to be using it to great effect so who's to say the WT hasn't flip-flopped in that time period if you haven't been keeping track?

  Take your condescending bullshit elsewhere, prick. Besides, if you bothered to read the entire thread, I admitted at the top of this page that the facebook site was being run by "a small group of brothers at Brooklyn Bethel and Patterson" so again, kindly f*** off.
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  STRAIGHT FROM THE HORSE'S MOUTH! Possible shift in position from the WTBTS on the global vs local deluge.

  by marmot in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a buddy of mine recently sent me a link to the official wtbts facebook page and i thought what the hey, let's see what they have to say about the question that made me fade in the first place.

  much to my surprise, they answered!

  you may already be aware that the general position of jehovah's witnesses is briefly stated here:.

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  marmot

  Yeah, you're right, upon further inspection, the site reads: We represent a small group of brothers working from Brooklyn Bethel and Patterson, but not in any official media or public relations capacity.

  However, I still followed up with the following question: Hi, I'm ** and thank you for the reply. In response to your offer for further clarification I'll bring up just one more question relative to your mention of the ice caps. It is universally accepted that these large deposits of ice are laid down in stra ta that can be counted both visually and chemically, leaving a reliable record of ice layers that go back hundreds of thousands of years. Tellingly, there is no evidence of a catastrophic global deluge. Is it not possible, then, that the flood was local or even allegorical? We'll see if that merits a reply.
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  STRAIGHT FROM THE HORSE'S MOUTH! Possible shift in position from the WTBTS on the global vs local deluge.

  by marmot in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a buddy of mine recently sent me a link to the official wtbts facebook page and i thought what the hey, let's see what they have to say about the question that made me fade in the first place.

  much to my surprise, they answered!

  you may already be aware that the general position of jehovah's witnesses is briefly stated here:.

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  marmot

  Sir82, please explain what it is that I visited on my iPhone then, and who sent me that response because it looked pretty damn official to me.
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  STRAIGHT FROM THE HORSE'S MOUTH! Possible shift in position from the WTBTS on the global vs local deluge.

  by marmot in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a buddy of mine recently sent me a link to the official wtbts facebook page and i thought what the hey, let's see what they have to say about the question that made me fade in the first place.

  much to my surprise, they answered!

  you may already be aware that the general position of jehovah's witnesses is briefly stated here:.

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  marmot

  A buddy of mine recently sent me a link to the official WTBTS Facebook page and I thought what the hey, let's see what they have to say about the question that made me fade in the first place. Much to my surprise, they answered! Here's what they said:

  " ******* *****,
  
  You may already be aware that the general position of Jehovah's Witnesses is briefly stated here:
  
  http://m.wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2008411
  
  From the linked article it should be clear that we feel evidence remains that the entire earth was once flooded. The fact is that most of the earth is still "flooded" and would be further flooded if the ice caps completely melted. Many scientists, too, have also presented evidence related to such a flood.
  
  This does not mean that we judge those who understand things differently as lacking in understanding.
  
  We are not scientists, of course. and it is quite possible that when one adheres rigorously to scientific precepts, that it is simply not possible for many of them to accept a global flood just 4,000 years ago. Therefore, we have no doubt that scientists are generally quite honest about their understanding of the evidence.
  
  Even many Bible scholars have rationalized or downplayed the literalness of the Biblical description. This does not mean that such scholars are being dishonest, either. For example, Hebrew expressions for the earth often refer just to the known areas in the Middle East. One Hebrew expression for the earth usually refers only to Israel itself.

  
  On the other hand, we can still have certainty that a global flood occurred, just as it was described in Genesis. As the article mentioned, the Genesis account was validated again by others, including Isaiah, Peter and even Jesus.
  
  Science must necessarily limit its reasoning to the available evidence and the available methods of understanding that evidence. This does not mean that new evidence will not be forthcoming. Nor does it mean that the same evidence already in front of us will not be re-evaluated based on forthcoming methods. Science continues to make advancements in many areas of study.
  
  We would be happy to search out further details if you have more specific questions. Hopefully this may be helpful for now. "

  Granted, they're still clinging to the global flood position but this is the first time I've ever seen them acknowledge even the possibility that the flood might have been local. I'm going to answer back with a few brief points regarding the ice caps and how ice cores show continuous glacial deposition layers going back hundreds of thousands of years and see what they say.
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  Since leaving watchtower what has been your biggest act of rebellion?

  by 3rdgen in

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  i'm in a pissy mood and would love to hear your stories.

  personally, i'm thinking of getting a tatoo on my rear end saying wbt$ kiss this!.

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  marmot

  Lessee, I:

  - Celebrate birthdays and holidays

  - Eat blood sausage

  - Listen to lots of heavy metal

  - Smoke cigars (and other leafy stuff)

  - Drink beyond getting tipsy

  - Live with my fiancée

  - Have a chin beard

  - Am happy
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  Are people like Abraham, Isaiah or Jeremiah in heaven ?

  by Durden in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am discussing with my father about various subjects and this is one of them.. what arguments can i use to support this "doctrine" (so to say) ?.

  i am looking for texts to support this (i knew quite a few, i just to learn something new).

  thanks in advance.

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  marmot

  Have you ever researched the patriarchs? Like REAL research, not watchtower CD-ROM or bible verse cross-indexing. I recommend reading "The Bible Unearthed" by Israel Finkelstein and Neil Asher Silberman.

  It'll flip your view of the bible and its early writers on its ear.
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  One of the hardest things I must do while in...

  by OneDayillBeFree in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ive had many single sisters (even the hot ones that horny brothers like to circle around during intermissions at assemblies/conventions) come to me recently asking if im single, what my spiritual goals are and how high in the ranks i am.

  i just tell them that im not interested in relationships at the moment and that my focus is on other things.

  they usually get the message and leave me alone.. but i lie.. .

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  marmot

  My wonderful fiancée and I met shortly after I began my fade and it turned out she was also a fader. We met by pure coincidence on eharmony five years ago.

  Needle in a haystack, maybe, but they are out there.
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  The Bible Unearthed : The Patriarchs, The Exodus, The Kings, The Book

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t440bxhn1qa.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdds8hgoz4o.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm45szeu25w.

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  marmot

  mP, would you care to elaborate on why he is a "fraud" and doesn't know anything? I read and appreciated the book and thought he was very even-handed, giving equal voice to the opposition.

  Or maybe my sarcasm meter is broken.