Posts by 4mylove

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Alcohol and JW's

by sweet pea in

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friends

it seems like alcohol is a very grey area when it comes to jw's.

when i was a jw i knew many witnesses, particularly brothers, who seriously liked their drink and it appeared that when it came to elders and ministerial servants, the organisation seemed to turn a blind eye to alcohol abuse if those brothers were being faithful and especially if they were looked up to and liked in the congregation.

it reminds me of the mormons and the fact that utah is the prozac capital of the world - when something is not perceived as quite as bad a sin as another (even though all sins are equally bad in the bible/book or mormon), it becomes the one form of escape for people who have nowhere else to turn.

4mylove

They seem to go hand in hand.....

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We Should Give Newbies the Benefit of the Doubt

by flipper in

jw
friends

considering what has gone on at this board the last couple months, i thought this would be good to discuss !

it's true that some here are somewhat jaded and untrusting of others because of the deception pulled by " trevor" and the whole " trevorgate " thing.

that being said and acknowledged however , think about what makes us not trust others as ex-witnesses.

4mylove

Thanks for that flipper. I'm sorry to say that after the whole trevorgate thing, things changed for newbies. I completely understand trust issues from those who have been so abused for so long. But some of us, not even having been witnesses have also been hurt. I noticed after trevors' situation, no one would really respond to newbies posts. I still love being here and do feel welcomed. Thanks for looking out.

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shunned

by lovelylissa in

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friends

i got disfelowshiped when i divorced my husband and altho we both went on to have relationships with other people he didn't get disfelowshiped as he wasn't going to meetings.

we have since then got back together and i find it so frustrating that i still get treated like a leper being shunned by his family and all the other witnesses but he still gets invited to dinner and works with them.

i don't want to be best buddys with any of them i just hate it when they cross the road to avoid me .

4mylove

lovelylissa,

I'm sorry you are in this situation. Let me start by saying that I am not a witness just in love with an inactive witness. He has been through some tough situations. At times, I think he just puts on a brave face for his family. Hope to hear your story.

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shunned

by lovelylissa in

jw
friends

i got disfelowshiped when i divorced my husband and altho we both went on to have relationships with other people he didn't get disfelowshiped as he wasn't going to meetings.

we have since then got back together and i find it so frustrating that i still get treated like a leper being shunned by his family and all the other witnesses but he still gets invited to dinner and works with them.

i don't want to be best buddys with any of them i just hate it when they cross the road to avoid me .

4mylove

Rosalee are you an active Witness?

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It's like creeping through the dark....

by dawg in

jw
friends

and finding light... i was alone for 17 years, and even though i never knew anyone felt as i did about the jws, i still knew i was right.... i used to go down the road, cussing at air...how could my family be so fooled?

i asked the wind.

now i have you internet people, from all over the world that knew like i did many years ago- the fads are full of shit.

4mylove

Dawg,

I love reading about your experiences. I hope one day my husband will see how this religion tears families apart. I hope your father will one day hug you and say, I get it. Thanks so much for being so open with us, it helps more than you know.

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paul potts

by freyd in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k08yxu57na .

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wow!

4mylove

AMAZING.....Wonder if Simon will make him part of Il Divo.

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DRUNK DRIVING/DUI IN YOUR CONGREGATION

by badboy in

jw
friends

were there any cases in your congregation?

4mylove

This may be pretty gross to some.

My big ol jw friend was out drinking with her jw friends, (i don't usually get invited to these events...) when most got a little trashed. One of them has very bad gastric problems, and my buddy had to hold her up so she wouldn't mess herself. She later proceeded to explain that she actually had to help her sit on the toilet because she was that drunk. What a great christian example of how a young lady should act. My friend that is...hahahahahahaha!!!

How do they go and lie to themselves on Sundays and get trashed on Thursday thru Saturday? That almost makes them as bad as ud Catholics! LMAO!

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Carl Sagan, reflecting on a picture of the earth......

by AK - Jeff in

taken from about 4 billion miles in space by voyager i in 1990 stated this profundity;.

"we succeeded in taking that picture [from deep space], and, if you look at it, you see a dot.

that's home.

4mylove

Wow. An eye opener. I watched that special on HBO this morning, Death in Isreal? Not sure of the name. It's about the Israeli mother who lost her daughter to a suicide bomber that turned out to be another 17 year old Palestinian girl. It was heartbreaking to watch them meet. We are so far away from change when it comes to that part of the world IMO.

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