passing this on from bill bowen...milton g. henschel (1920-).
born around 1920. .
he was baptized while adolescent and in 1939 was already bethelite.
Most importantly, this magazine builds confidence in the Creator's promise of a peaceful and secure new world before the generation that saw the events of 1914 passes away. (Awake! Published by The Watchtower Bible & Tract Society, Milton Henschel President )
this past weekend we had our circuit assembly.
you guessed it, same ol' same ol.
' on saturday, the overall theme was based on materialism.
Also the society charges about $5.00 a head off the top.
Huh? What's this?
he who has sight is blessed; he who has insight is a thousand times blessed.
what motivates jws to engage in a debate with former jws?
this question is something i have written about in years past and my hope is that it will provide some insight to the newbies.
Hi Victor, Maybe the reason they debate here, is that they can not debate there. Just a guess . . . . .
i am currently a jw but am having a bit of difficulty with it at the moment.
i have always been a bit 'badly inclined' i got married at the tender age of 17 (crazy!
) to a bit of a rebel (a jw but a rebel all the same!
Hi Gracie, Are there children involved? If so, whose? Just trying to fill in the blanks . . . . gary
july 15, 1958. i sailed aboard the ts arosa star.
she was bound from southampton for new york.
i was 12 years old and accompanying my grandmother.
Six of us in a 1953 Chevy sadan with no air and we drove from South Dakota to New York without a sleep stop. The assembly was 8 days out in the hot sun. 9 am till 9 pm or later. It was the second worst thing I had ever done up to that point in my life.
Yeah! We had a Watchtower magazine taped to the rear window and every Beverly-hillbillies jalopie we passed blew their horn and waved. More than a few could not get the time off work so they quit their jobs so they could go because they thought it was more important than feeding their kids because Armageddon was due any day.
People stank of sweat and worse. There was no escape from it. The seats were hard. The weather was hot. The food was bad. There was no free good cold drinking water. My parents fought and there were smiles but no one was happy.
Most of the people who went are dead now and the kids there, like me, are old and none of the things they promised were ever delivered. It's all denied now and replaced by new books and a new bunch of JW's who have no problem with not looking at the past . . . . . . or the present . . . . .
july 15, 1958. i sailed aboard the ts arosa star.
she was bound from southampton for new york.
i was 12 years old and accompanying my grandmother.
I was there too!! I was 14. It was terrible.
didn't they see my apostate bumper sticker?
how did they miss it?.
the doorbell rang, i saw a woman wearing a dress, with bookbag in hand, through my door window, i knew immediately.. this is the first time they have come by since i da'd (and i moved right around the time that i da'd, so they weren't from my former cong).. unfortunately i experienced a pretty heavy adrenaline rush, causing me to tense up.
Note to elders taped on door:
I won't be able to meet with you.
I am sorry to inform you I am busy all week.
Sunday I attend Mass at a Catholic Church.
Monday I volunteer at the United Nations.
Tuesday I fornicate and take a blood transfusion.
Wednesday I am attending a birthday party and a seance.
Thursday I salute the flag and sing the National Anthem all day.
Friday I am going Christmas shopping with apostates.
Saturday I am going to the casino to play blackjack and smoke cigars.
Please leave current magazines in mailbox.
i had a phone call last night from one of the elders asking if they can come around.
when i asked him why he said it was to discuss whether i would be interested in having a study.. this is strange as i have been baptised since i was 14 and left about 4 years ago and have had little contact with any witnesses except my parents, but, the only thing that has changed over the last few weeks is that i put together a 50 page report documenting a range of subjects including the un involvment etc and give it to my mum.
then within a week the elders want to ask my to have a study!.
Hi Alan, An example of a reach is the Corporation's practice, as you have shown on this topic, of applying one verse to the future, the next verse to the past, and the next verse again applied to the future.
Like the Tower's application of the great crowd on earth in spite of the verse that says I saw a great crowd in heaven. Or the ability to decide if a verse is figurative or literal in interpretation.
When I was a Witness, I was expected to deny the obvious, forget the error of past "truth", accept some new mumble jumble about the typical and the atypical and the gog of magog jibberish. All of that mush is in the trash now but I still have the headache. :-)
Thanks for your comments and insights. I always enjoy your posts. gary
i had a phone call last night from one of the elders asking if they can come around.
when i asked him why he said it was to discuss whether i would be interested in having a study.. this is strange as i have been baptised since i was 14 and left about 4 years ago and have had little contact with any witnesses except my parents, but, the only thing that has changed over the last few weeks is that i put together a 50 page report documenting a range of subjects including the un involvment etc and give it to my mum.
then within a week the elders want to ask my to have a study!.
Thanks Alan, That helps. I will read it again slower:-) Did you write any essays on this topic? url?
This is probably another of those Tower reaches huh?
Thanks, gary
i had a phone call last night from one of the elders asking if they can come around.
when i asked him why he said it was to discuss whether i would be interested in having a study.. this is strange as i have been baptised since i was 14 and left about 4 years ago and have had little contact with any witnesses except my parents, but, the only thing that has changed over the last few weeks is that i put together a 50 page report documenting a range of subjects including the un involvment etc and give it to my mum.
then within a week the elders want to ask my to have a study!.
Alan F, Hi . . . . RE: Appointment in 1919 . . . . Don't the JW's teach that Christ's return is a progressive return and began in 1914 and the inspection process lasted 3 1/2 years and ended in 1918 when the Judge and his associates were let out of prison?
I have been reading your posts and I am not seeing why a JW would have a problem with the 1918-1919 appointment idea based on the scriptures you quoted. Please tell me what I am missing.
I do see your point about the cessation of the governing body and the obvious link back to the Catholic Church, like Charles Russell wrote about in the Studies books, and how Rutherford's followers might want to avoid going there.
Thanks, gary
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