it's a little late to be posting something like this, but i hope you can help me a little.
i would really like to review some of the pluses and minuses of universal type health care.
so here are some for consideration.
It was well known that bush was against embryonic cell research, and that Obama is lot more sympathetic to it. We in The UK as well as The US are quite happy to have mix private and public funding.
There is one discernable difference though, and that is that in The US there seems to be a far greater prevalence of private benefactors willing to fund this research.
David
it's a little late to be posting something like this, but i hope you can help me a little.
i would really like to review some of the pluses and minuses of universal type health care.
so here are some for consideration.
Fwiw we here in The UK are leaders in the world, ( alongside The US) in medical research. If you have any doubt look up GSK. I pass a huge research facility every day that they have at Stevenage. This is a world leading drug company.
My own son obtained a 1st in Medical Biochemistry at Kings College London. a world leader in embryonic stem cell research, and biomedical research. Interestingly one of the leading authorities there is Dr Stephen Minger from of all places The US, i have met him at a lecture there.
So we who have socialized medicine, ( i loathe that term) have leading centres of research, both privately and publicly funded, so to even insinuate that we do not is nonsense.
David
i just don't get why the us is so afraid of social health care, and is so opposed to the canadian and british models.
the plain fact is that there are far more americans without access to health care than the combined populations of sweden, norway, denmark and finland.. a measure of the maturity of any society has to be how it sees fit to re-apportion its wealth.. we are quick to criticise african leaders who line their own pockets but leave the masses in poverty but cannot see that blindly following capitalist principles is much the same.
if we live in a wealthy society then part of that wealth has to be put back into society as a whole.. .
This is a link to a National Newspaper here. Look at the statistics given at the bottom of the page too.
And we have a higher life expectancy here.
Me thinks we are getting a good deal here
Regards David
i was baptized at the 1976 "sacret secret" dc at inglewood ca there must have been 50,000 people there..
Twickenham 1975 age 19, and i thought this end was nigh, ah well onward and upward!
I went to Dorking too once, agreed it is a nice part of England.
Regards David
pensioner enters jehovah's witness church with machine gunpublished: 31 jul 09 09:13 cet.
an 82-year-old man who entered a meeting of jehovahs witnesses armed with a submachine gun, three magazines, a samurai sword and a knife has been arrested, bielefeld police reported on friday.. some 81 members of the church were gathered in their kingdom hall on dunlopstrae in the citys sennestadt district when a congregation member noticed the masked elderly man enter the vestibule waving the machine gun around 8:45 pm on thursday.. .
the witness quietly informed the congregation and directed them to escape the building via emergency exit, a police statement said.. .
Hey Mary has your medication worn off?? If you not might need to get some more..
You conflate non sequiturs and behold you divine meaning, even though you have not listened to what is being said, sounds like jw's to me.
When visiting Canada i have one more reason not to visit a kingdom hall, Mary with her gun.
See us Brits liberated Germany and now see what they do with the freedom they kill jw's!! Or try to.
David
all the world's a stage,.
and all the men and women merely players:.
they have their exits and their entrances;.
Dear cog, i have too have enjoyed your posts, both the provocative and tongue in cheek, you were never dull.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxQgXgS5G3c&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUjhRIBluGc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z8AddFYCnA&feature=related
Plus a couple of other clips for you to enjoy from Peter Cook and Dudley Moore
This is the final scene from Life Of Brian, an apposite clip for an an xjw.
Voltaire once said that " mankind is born free, yet is everywhere in chains". May the freedom you have bring you comfort and solace.
Wishing you well as life unfolds for you.
Warmest regards
David.
pensioner enters jehovah's witness church with machine gunpublished: 31 jul 09 09:13 cet.
an 82-year-old man who entered a meeting of jehovahs witnesses armed with a submachine gun, three magazines, a samurai sword and a knife has been arrested, bielefeld police reported on friday.. some 81 members of the church were gathered in their kingdom hall on dunlopstrae in the citys sennestadt district when a congregation member noticed the masked elderly man enter the vestibule waving the machine gun around 8:45 pm on thursday.. .
the witness quietly informed the congregation and directed them to escape the building via emergency exit, a police statement said.. .
That The WTS is coercive in the way it operates is beyond doubt. That it treats df da people corrosively, is beyond question, to then say that that if nutcase walks in with a machine gun, that they are reaping they sow is to demonstrate the same mindset.
Non of my family are or were jw's , yet my dad had a brother who i did not know existed until after he passed away, i lived less than three miles away from him all my lie! It is not only JW's who practice the pernicious act of shunning.
We who have been in and left are wiser to leave the bile and vitriol behind, however difficult it is so to do. I speak as one who could be dfed anytime, ( they have tried and failed), and would see my gorgeous daughter who happens to be a JW very little.
Regards David
i have seen claims on that stupid "topix" forum that the claims about u.n membership, and investment in rand corporation etc.
have been de-bunked,we apostates are a bunch of liars you know.. but is there any doubt about either subject, i thought both were cut and dried?.
love.
Claims about membership are undoubtedly true, there have been a number of threads on here detailing it. There was an article about it in The Guardian too fairly recently.
Regards David
I would love to visit Japan, it seems so different and interesting. Ireland is appealing too.
David
flipper asked this question and got me thinking about it.
why don't they do more to protect the children?
why not hunt the abusers down and get them out of the organization?
This a very interesting and enlightening thread.
Chairman Mao put into place the criteria you put forward. In Mao The Unknown Story by Jung Chang, it is amazing and depressing how ruthlessly and effectively he put this into action. Also worth noting is that whilst Mao publicly exhorted his subjects to eschew culture he very much enjoyed it; in private !
The Ayatollahs of Iran do the same as well. I have a friend from Iran, he said to me the other day that the people of Iran now realise that have swapped one dictatorship for another, and that they want to rid themselves ot it.
I now have four tests as to whether an organisation is about control. Is it homophobic, racist, misogynist ( i know of of no misandrist group) or anti education? If it exhibits one of these traits, and often all four are present, you can be sure they are about control. Often they are anti culture too, as culture very often challenges people to think, thus undermining the group.
This does come through in their attitude toward children as well
Thus to answer your question, they are for more concerned to protect themselves because they see an admission of complicity or omission,as weakening themselves.
Regards David
