Dawg, I'm with Scotsman on this one. I think you should just put this letter away for a while. Then you might try to read it as the recipiant and not the sender. Your parents have hurt you deeply. What a terrible loss to them. If you would my son I would brag you up everwhere I went. You are very intelligent, funny and talented and handsome. They are impaired in thinking and feeling. I'm so sorry how the borg can influence people to reject their wonderful child that God loaned to them.
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Long last letter to dad...please comment-not mailed yet
by dawg indad, .
i doubt youll even read this letter since it comes from your son, a son youve abandoned over your religious views, but i wanted to write you one final letter to see if theres any hope that you can come to your senses as far as this religion goes and we can renew our relationship.
im doing this because i care for you and mom deeply and feel very much distressed that you two refuse to see anyones opinion as being factual other than your own when it concerns the jw religion.
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3 a.m. - my wife is in tears! What do I do?
by The Scotsman inwell my situation has developed a bit, any advice appreciated.. their has been a gradual building up of pressure ever since i stood down as an elder about 6 months ago.. i have been telling my wife about my doubts but have continued to attend "some" meetings.. as time has progressed i have become more open with my criticism of the org.. i mentioned the un scandal, molestation trials, false prophecy ect etc.. interestingly she does not deny these facts and yet still wants to continue as a jw.. i told her that god is not happy with people knowingly being part of a false prophet (deut 18 - etc) - starting to lay the groundwork for my exit.. she appreciates the difficult situation doubters are in - they cannot openly express their feelings for fear of jcs.. anyway, a few weeks ago we moved house which meant changing congregation.. but i felt it would be best if i did not attend meetings " at all" at the new cong so my fade could be easier.. but i could not have predicted my wifes response - when i told her it was an explosion of emotion, i mean real heartbreaker stuff.. she seems depressed at the prospect, perhaps the reality is finally hitting home.. last night, about 3a.m.
i noticed that she was not in bed.
i went downstairs and she was sobbing away to herself.. "i can't go to that hall myself!
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dogisgod
Your wife could benefit from some counseling with a neutral person...even couples counseling. No matter how much you love someone you are not "responsible" for their happiness or choices. Be very kind and non-resistant....In a tug-of-war all you have to do is let go of the rope to stop the struggle. Your contentment in your decision to leave and your example of well being will be the biggest influence on her. She really seems in crisis, possibly because as a JW you have no indentity of your own. If your husband is an elder you are the wife of an elder. For whatever reason if he steps down you have lost "statis". Then if he leaves the borg you feel that you are afloat in a big nasty sea...especially if you've changed congs. She is afraid. She morns the past, fears the future and cannot live in the now because she is compulsive about her percieved loss and fears. Just love her and let her find her path.
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Do you change your mind easily?
by nicolaou inas ex-jw's we've all cleary changed our minds about what 'the truth' is but do you think you could make another big change like that again?
i honestly cannot see myself changing my mind about the non-existence of god and the supernatural - but hey, i was just as dogmatic in my jw days that those things were real!
i guess anything is possible but it feels as though with every passing year my options for change are reduced.
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dogisgod
I can't remember.
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I pretty much hate shopping when I run into a Jw who wants to chat....
by Hope4Others inso i'm grocery shopping and run into a woman (sister) don't use those terms much, its first names.
thing she says: .
woman: well how are you guys doing?.
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dogisgod
When I run into them I always say hi and sometimes a big hug. I know I'm a fool because I have affection for many that I grew up with. They are always uncomfortable and "have to go" . Makes me a little sad.
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As a Witness Teenager - Did you Sneak Around ? Comical / Serious tales !
by flipper inas you all know i was raised in a very prominent witness family in california .
dad was , and still is an elder since 1953 !
in my youth in the 1970's i did my share of sneaking around / yes, although being an elders son!
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dogisgod
Nope. but I will regret it to my dying day. Jeez, the worst you would get was the clap. What a waste of hormonal developement.
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JW Secret Police
by outofthebox ini heard about a special group inside the organization.
its sole purpose is to find and judicialy process disidents (or apostates as they called them).
have you heard of such secret police before?
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dogisgod
Haven't been there for a while but the "secret police' is EVERYBODY. If you see something you must report it to the elders. (Even if it may be truely nothing bad...something bad MIGHT devlope 10 yrs down the road and better to discipline now ).
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Born in or Converted to JW? What are the stats here? and why....
by oompa incan't everyone just put this one item on their profile before posting.
it seems like most posters have no profile, but this info could help in several ways.
i am just guessing, but it seems like more here were born in.....your thoughts on this?......oompa.
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dogisgod
Born in. Mother studied when I was 8 mos old. Became very zealous. No more xmas, bdays, holidays. Very shocking to my father and older brothers. My dad tried to do the holidays but without her help or encouragement he gave up and would just give us kids money. We lost contact with our close family (all catholic) relationships. To this day when effort is made to contact them they don't respond. My dad had been a very athletic guy with bowling and baseball but soon she hounded him to give that up. I had to go to every meeting with her but "the boys" didn't always go. Mother is SHOCKED whenever she brings it up and they say they HATED the meetings. (Especially the one in prison). Dad eventually studied and even went in service but it really wasn't his comfort zone. (My mom describes it as a 'fear of man" although he was a lightweight boxer and capible of kicking ass) His big break was when I was raped by an apt mgr and the brothers came to hound me about it. I was crying. They were verbally pounding me. then my dad (about 73 yrs old) told them it was enough and they had to leave. The Overseer said, Mr. xxxxxx do you think a little old man like you could kick us two big young men out of this house? My father said let's just give it a try and if this is the kind of people you are I don't want to be associated with you. In return the CO said , 'if this is the kind of man you are we don't want you at our meetings!!!!"
They stormed out of the house and my father never went to another meeting of which I felt tremendous guilt that I was responsible for my father's upcoming death at Armegeddon.
I was baptized at an assembly I went to with a married couple who were pioneers. The night before baptism they asked me. "Who is going to survive Armegeddon and God's wrath" Answer, "the Great crowd.' "And how is one identified as being part of the great crowd?" 'By being baptized'. "If you are not baptized at the time of judgement then you are the same as those that reject god and therefore deserve to be destroyed". That scared me enough to get baptized without telling my mother and she was really pissed that she didn't even see it. I was 16 and knew that whatever much I did was not enough and "perhaps' getting dunked under the water MIGHT assure avoidence of a fiery end where my eyes would not melt out of their sockets and skin melt off my bones.
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Being a Jehovah's Witness Can Make You Fat
by WTWizard inas there has been some talk lately of a crackdown on obesity (in the form of the great boasting session), it might be time for a thread about how being one of jehovah's witlesses can lend one to becoming fat.. first, my personal situation.
when i was in college, i gained the 4x15 pounds that were supposed to be gained in college, and it was only my sophomore semester.
it was legitimately my fault.
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dogisgod
At my old hall there are more heavies than not. But then Americans are getting bigger and bigger all the time. In Seattle where the weather is not always condusive to outdoor activites it encourages people to do all that driving around doing "return visits". Fitness and exercise are not emphasized because it takes time away from xtian duties. If you join a gym you might meet someone and fornicate. Pretty sad.
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Pentecostals? Should I be afraid of them?
by ThomasCovenant injust finished watching the film 'borat'.
in it there is a scene where he attends what i assume is a pentecostal church meeting.
for all i know it is a setup.
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dogisgod
I avoid anything that puts my brain on the back burner and makes me look more foolish than usual. Gin and Tonic is about as far as I go. I think they are scary and freaky. Self induced trances and thrashing about while speaking ancient sanskrit or whatever doesn't seem to honor God or accomplish anything.
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Toastmasters... again?
by Bryan ini know, not the most exciting topic, but.... as most of you know i have been speaking at many of my book signings and am working to increase my speaking career.. the toastmasters international competition has been going on for a month or two.. i have won the club, area and division contests and i go on to the district competition in spokane, washington on the 19th.
this is really a great joy for me and the higher i get in the competitions the more recognition i get from speaker bureaus (agents for speakers).. help me with some positive thoughts as i compete in the next two competitions.
if i can get through those, i'll get to the big one!
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dogisgod
I did Toastmasters for about a year here in Seattle but my work schedule became so erratic that I couldn't go to the meetings. They are really an impressive group. Good luck on your journey!!!