since jesus died first and the curtain in the temple was torn in two did the thief share in the earthly or the heavenly hope?.
so the soldiers came and broke the legs of the first man and of the other one who had been crucified with him.
when they came to jesus, they did not break his legs since they saw that he was already dead.
Well if we can prove that the watchtowers lying on the point of the comma - i say unto you today, you will be with me in paradise.I say unto you, today you will be with me in paradise.
Be intresting to see whether the original hebrew and greek scriptures even used commas and other symbols like that.
i can remember coming into the organization.
at the time, they wanted me to get rid of any music that didn't fit.
of course, that meant the heavy metal that was common at that time.
Funny enough one watchower study a few years back warning about music i remember had some of the lighter quotes from eminem in such as " suger coated " .I bet someone sits in bethel palying those songs over and over." Thats just pure filth, bob come listen to this we,ll have to warn them about this in one of our rags".
it still seems like a dillema to me as the watchtower seems to teach whats in the bible really well, although these days i can see a few scriptures which have been twisted and deep down i have never trusted the new world translation.. but on the other hand the statistics dont seem to add up at all.for example since i have been in my congregation despite the inportance placed on jws to be out on field circus only the odd few accept mags on the doors all others just couldnt be bothered.my local congregation has not really grown and brought in the so called right hearted ones.the odd few have come in but mainly growth seems to come from jws that have left their country and come to britain esp from zimbabwe thats seems popular.in fact ive saw a number leave.. plus my book study group in my neighbourhood for tuesday evenings has not grown at all despite the odd study here and there and a few people having the mags.im im left thinking come on out of all the people in my area only this small group here is expecting to be saved and they arent anything special not any better than anyone else.. id like to know what if any growth in congregations others have seen and how many people respond etc?.
It still seems like a dillema to me as the watchtower seems to teach whats in the bible really well, although these days i can see a few scriptures which have been twisted and deep down i have never trusted the new world translation.
But on the other hand the statistics dont seem to add up at all.For example since i have been in my congregation despite the inportance placed on jws to be out on field circus only the odd few accept mags on the doors all others just couldnt be bothered.My local congregation has not really grown and brought in the so called right hearted ones.The odd few have come in but mainly growth seems to come from jws that have left their country and come to britain esp from zimbabwe thats seems popular.In fact ive saw a number leave.
Plus my book study group in my neighbourhood for tuesday evenings has not grown at all despite the odd study here and there and a few people having the mags.Im im left thinking come on out of all the people in my area only this small group here is expecting to be saved and they arent anything special not any better than anyone else.
Id like to know what if any growth in congregations others have seen and how many people respond etc?
i didn't!.
i didn't even know i was supposed to.. does that mean my baptism is invalid and i am not a jw?...
if only.. -ootb.
To be honest i took it seriously and was trying to do what was right before i got baptized.But elders and others just piled on the pressure.You know " jehovah will only save baptized ones and the end can come at any time soon".Which when you think of it this peer pressure is nothing to do with holy spirit or christian qualities.
i can remember coming into the organization.
at the time, they wanted me to get rid of any music that didn't fit.
of course, that meant the heavy metal that was common at that time.
Yeah this was one of the things ive always hated about the watchtower.Controlling peoples music.I was brought up in a very musical family.My dad was a dj and i used to work with him for years at the clubs.So music meant a lot to me emotionally.I remember times when i tried to fit my taste of music with the towers advice and found it was just so boring.Now i love to play whatever i want and its kinda become a way of rebeling against the watchtower listening to my music i want.Its quite funny really i remember when i was studying with the elder next door and i once played some eminem music really loud.The elder came round next day and gave me a pep talk on romans 1 where it says that god gives them up to a corrupt mind, kinda still makes sense really though.
assuming noah took oo on the ark,how did he preserve the food?
He didnt take food on the ark.Rumor has it if they felt hungry he just turned to the animals and had a roast beef sandwich.hehe.
this is a very good video on the connection between jws and depression talking to an ex elder and an ex circuit overseer who is a phschologist and while a co he spent time helping people in the congs with their depression.and started to discover just how linked mental illness and jws watchtower control is.well worth watching.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co-b65w-zqs
This is a very good video on the connection between jws and depression talking to an ex elder and an ex circuit overseer who is a phschologist and while a co he spent time helping people in the congs with their depression.And started to discover just how linked mental illness and jws watchtower control is.Well worth watching.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO-b65W-zQs
some of you on here know that i have been fading for sometime now and stopped going to meetings for quite a while but the past month or so i have returned.i am still just not sure whether at the end jws will be found to be gods people or not.. well today i attended the early sunday meeting eager to try and do what i still think could be right and despite the doubts i have about the watchtower.. now to be fair a number of people came and spoke to me said hello and stuff.the majority just didnt bother.but what really got me today was a number of people who i thought were my friends were just hateful.i even held the door open for one of them and they just were so hatefull and gave me funny looks as if i had the plague or something.i left feeling like this is no diffrent to any other religion.
some nice and other people not so nice.all i could think of on the way home was so much for jehovah never forgetting what you have done for him.im starting to wonder whether the bible is really gods word after all.. i just feel im at a fork in the road and dont know what to do for the best..
Some of you on here know that i have been fading for sometime now and stopped going to meetings for quite a while but the past month or so i have returned.I am still just not sure whether at the end jws will be found to be gods people or not.
Well today i attended the early sunday meeting eager to try and do what i still think could be right and despite the doubts i have about the watchtower.
Now to be fair a number of people came and spoke to me said hello and stuff.The majority just didnt bother.But what really got me today was a number of people who i thought were my friends were just hateful.I even held the door open for one of them and they just were so hatefull and gave me funny looks as if i had the plague or something.I left feeling like this is no diffrent to any other religion. Some nice and other people not so nice.All i could think of on the way home was so much for jehovah never forgetting what you have done for him.Im starting to wonder whether the bible is really gods word after all.
I just feel im at a fork in the road and dont know what to do for the best.
matthew 5:5: "happy are the mild-tempered ones, since they will inherit the earth.".
if you ask most witnesses what this verse means, they will say that it means those who are meek/mild/humble will be given the earth as a reward to live forever on.
i was surprised to find out that this is not the official watchtower teaching of that verse.
From my experience in the tower i have noticed how alot people especially the elders will still use old light for awhile until the new lights drummed into them.Its like they cant adjust and keep up with the towers reinterpretation of things.For example i have learnt how the " generation " teaching was changed in 1995 so it could no longer mean the generation that saw 1914 would see the end.But when i came into the tower in 1999 i was taught by others for years that this generation that saw 1914 would see the end and it would end before they die.
bit silly but quite funny.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1l4h4_the-final-exammormons-are-the-answe_news.
who would have thought that it was the mormons eh?.
Thats so funny
