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  Were you ever the subject of a ''Local needs'' talk???

  by karter in

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  apperantly there was one in my old congro as my neice (baptized ,but inactive) is marring her livein boy freind.. .

  anyone going to the weeding wil be publicly reproved..

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  karter

  Apperantly there was one in my old congro as my Neice (Baptized ,but inactive) is marring her livein boy freind.

  Anyone going to the weeding wil be publicly reproved.
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  Is the Governing Body Guilty or not guilty of 1975 speculations going too far?

  by Terry in

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  the most disengenuous aspect of "official" pronouncements from the society can be identified.. it is in the positioning of the speaker/writer as a passive onlooker commenting on exterior happenings.. this bystander mode is clever by half.. why?

  it spoon feeds information without taking any active personal responsibility.. sort of an "oh gee, wow--look at all this going on" stance, while taking a stand-offish tone, is printed in the official magazines and books approved for publication by the governing body as mouthpiece of jehovah.. think about that.

  it is insidious incitement without responsibility.. the person (likely fred franz) who crafted these bulletins had gone through several previous incidents of failure and disappointment and was well aware of the effect of any speculations upon jehovah's witnesses in the past.. this makes what was printed all the more calculated and irresponsible in the extreme.. let us parse the language printed by the watchtower society with careful attention to what is said and left unsaid.. w68 8/15 p. 494 why are you looking forward to 1975?.

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  If there was ever an open debate with the GB about 1975 they would loose hands down.

  Terry and others have put enough everdance on this thread to hang them all.

  But so many in were not around before 1975 and they swollow the WTS official line.

  At least 3 CO's i know were not around and not aware what was said and done by the GB.
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  What percentage of young ones are leaving the JW's???

  by karter in

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  2. experiences

  in my area atleast 50% if not more..

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  In my area atleast 50% if not more.
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  Is the Governing Body Guilty or not guilty of 1975 speculations going too far?

  by Terry in

  1. social
  2. humour

  the most disengenuous aspect of "official" pronouncements from the society can be identified.. it is in the positioning of the speaker/writer as a passive onlooker commenting on exterior happenings.. this bystander mode is clever by half.. why?

  it spoon feeds information without taking any active personal responsibility.. sort of an "oh gee, wow--look at all this going on" stance, while taking a stand-offish tone, is printed in the official magazines and books approved for publication by the governing body as mouthpiece of jehovah.. think about that.

  it is insidious incitement without responsibility.. the person (likely fred franz) who crafted these bulletins had gone through several previous incidents of failure and disappointment and was well aware of the effect of any speculations upon jehovah's witnesses in the past.. this makes what was printed all the more calculated and irresponsible in the extreme.. let us parse the language printed by the watchtower society with careful attention to what is said and left unsaid.. w68 8/15 p. 494 why are you looking forward to 1975?.

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  At an international convention in 1974 one of the GB said'' This may well be the last assembly this side of Armageddon''

  I cleary remember all the talks,WT articles,ect all pointing to 1975.

  Then when it did'nt come anyone who said anything about the WTS saying 1975 would be the end was told they themselfs put too much emphsis on it!!!!

  Then along came 1976 and they are looseing members flat out.

  Nathen Noor went on a world wide specking tour to drum up support one thing he said ''In the highly unlikely event we see the year 2000''

  Saddly alot of the Elders,CO's ect we not even around in 1975.
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  Does creating low self esteem in the R&F play into the hands of the GB?

  by highdose in

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  officaly they say that they don't want the r&f to have low self esteem, they say that low self esteem is from the devil.. .

  but they create a culture that cannot help but give their r&f crippling self esteem, the constant empasis is on looking at the flaws in oneself.

  "pummeling" yourself because of your sins, all the publications tell us over and over again that we are "dust" and deserve nothing.. .

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  It's like ''Stockholm syndrome'' were you begin to like the person misstreating you.
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  Tell your jw jokes here.

  by jean-luc picard in

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  A Hells angle member became a JW .....now he comes to your door and tells you to F***K off.

  A JW goes to the door and they invite him in,After a while the householder asks"What are you here for" he says "Don't know never got this far before"
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  Hurt

  by JRK in

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  written by trent rzezner, performed by johnny cash:.

  wholly appropriate for a memorial night.. my family is all gone, sans my mother.. "i hurt myself today .

  to see if i still feel .

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  Hang in there JK we all have times like your haveing at the moment.

  Your freind.

  Karter.
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  The Wine Thread.

  by Open mind in

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  if you enjoy a glass of vino now and then, tell us what you like and how your tastes got to where they are now.

  wine snobs & non-snobs alike welcome!.

  my intro to the world of wine was my jw parents buying a huge screw-top bottle of paul masson or gallo red or white, having half a glass, and sticking it out on the back porch thinking that wine stayed good like that.

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  Nickolas,

  2008 Monkey bay sav Blanc will be past it's best....they need to be drunk young and crisp.

  Try a good NZ charrdony,Merlot.

  PM me if you want to know more.

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  The Wine Thread.

  by Open mind in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if you enjoy a glass of vino now and then, tell us what you like and how your tastes got to where they are now.

  wine snobs & non-snobs alike welcome!.

  my intro to the world of wine was my jw parents buying a huge screw-top bottle of paul masson or gallo red or white, having half a glass, and sticking it out on the back porch thinking that wine stayed good like that.

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  I live in new Zealand and we have some world class wines here.....spoilt for choice.

  Our most famous wine is Sauvignon blanc but we lso have lovley Merlots,charrdoy and bubblys.
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  Murray Smith says goodbye

  by sizemik in

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  hiyall .

  don't panic, i know i've only been here a short while .

  but i'm not really going.. when i joined i did so with such enthusiastic haste, i used my actual name.

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  Good to know you are still here Murry

  Still thinking....You have a PM