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  1975 - A weak argument?

  by Christ Alone in

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  i posted this on an older thread, but i wanted to get an honest opinion about this from all of you.

  i think taking the 1975 approach with a jw is...weak.

  was it wrong (and false prophetic) of them?

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  karter

  I was around pre 75 and the WTS all but said the end would be here in 75.

  At an international connvention in late 73 a member of the GB said "This is quite likely the last assembly this side of armaggeden"

  Notice he used "Quite likely" and easy out there.

  There were talks,Assembly parts ect all but saying the end would be here in 75 but all loaded with frasers that could get them off the hook if need be.

  Anyone that didn't buy into the whole 75 thing was to be considered week at best.

  Then along came 1976!!!

  People leaving in their drovers publisher numbers going down for the 1st time.

  Nathan.H.Nour went on a world wide speaking campain to drum up the masses.

  In his talk he said "In the highly unlikley event we see the year 2000"

  More loaded words "Highly unlikley" another out there.

  Alot of the Elders,C.O's,D.O's around now were not even around pre 75 and all tow the party line that it wasent the WTS fault we all read to much into it.
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  What Was Your Favorite TV/Movie Moment Or Line?

  by minimus in

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  2. entertainment

  i loved taxi with (alex) judd hirsch and his fellow cabbies.

  one of the funniest lines involved reverend jim trying to get a license.

  "what does a yellow light mean"?, jim quietly asks.

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  karter

  "Well there's one thing you gota ask yourself punk..Do you fell lucky well do ya punk"

  And we all know were that line came from.

  Karter.
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  Just Throwing Out The Idea Of A Class Action Suit Against The Watch Tower Corporations

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i think now that the governing body is in this big power grab in order to stay alive as an entity, thus tighten control, the more controling the more they open themselves up to legal consequences.. blood tranfusion forbiden by a authoritarian religous corporation.. disfellowshipping enforcement that brought pain and suffering thousands i'm sure these type of lawsuits could break them but i'm not well versed in law so i thought i would thow this out for discussion.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/class_action.

  in law, a class action, a class suit, or a representative action is a form of lawsuit in which a large group of people collectively bring a claim to court and/or in which a class of defendants is being sued.

  class actions are commonly referred to as class action suits; however, this phrase is redundant as the historical distinction between "actions" at law and "suits" in equity is no longer recognized.

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  karter

  Frankiespeakin,

  Good luck but the 1st amendment gets rite in your way here.

  Lets face it organizations with way more wacky idears opperate with the full protection of the 1st IE the "KKK" "Man boy love association" and many more.

  All the WTS would say is you knew the rules when you became a JW.

  Appart from the fact that the courts don't like geting involved in these things.

  Finkeistein,

  I respecitfully disagree with you on the shunning polices the "Exclusive breatheren" "Armish" and quite a few other religions have the same polices as the JW's

  Karter.
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  Please tell us about your weather.

  by compound complex in

  1. social
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  literal or figurative .

  rain, at long last, has penetrated into the interior of our land and my soul.

  the burning sun of a protracted summer had effectively removed my resolve to get necessary things done.

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  C.C.

  I'm from New Zealand.

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  Please tell us about your weather.

  by compound complex in

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  2. current

  literal or figurative .

  rain, at long last, has penetrated into the interior of our land and my soul.

  the burning sun of a protracted summer had effectively removed my resolve to get necessary things done.

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  karter

  Southern hemisphere......warm spring weather here and long hot summer on its way.

  Karter from downunder.
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  AUSTRALIA - Prime Minister Gillard has just announced a National Royal Commission into Child Abuse within Religions

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  australia's prime minister julia gillard has announced a national royal commission into child abuse within religions and religious charities (not-for-profit sector).

  julia gillard announces royal commission will probe child sex abuse.

  royal commission to probe child abuse.

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  karter

  At a Royal Commission anyone can apply to make a submission.

  They will appoint a group of M.P's from all partys and they will go around the country takeing subbmissions.

  Anyone who has any information regarding child abuse among the J.W's should apply to make one.

  This could get interesting.

  karter.
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  Can you think of ONE teaching of Jehovah Witnesses that hasn't changed since the religion started?

  by Unbrainwashed publisher1 in

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  2. friends

  whith this recent fds and gb debacle i cant think of one teaching that they have not altered since this org began?.

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  karter

  The worlds going to end any day.

  One thats never changed.
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  The Decline of Elders and Ministerial Servants

  by Londo111 in

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  2. beliefs

  i seem to remember somebody saying that since the 90's the number of elders has declined from 90000 to 60000. does anybody have any hard figures regarding this?.

  the organization is desperate for "qualified" men.

  but their standards are much too high, especially the monthly field service hour requirements tagged on to endless meetings and congregational busywork.

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  They have lowered the bar for being appointed i see Elders who at best are not up to the job.

  One had smoked far to much dope in his younger days and was a dreadfull specker and slow in speach used to dribble on.

  One was appointed an Elder as he was ripping off alot of bro's ...he was an accoutant and was doing their books.

  Ended up doing 2 years inside.

  Many are just too old and not up to it but like the statis.

  Karter.
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  Put some JW teachings in a nut shell.

  by karter in

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  2. friends

  the whole world is going to die soon except us..

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  karter

  The whole world is going to die soon except us.
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  Loyalty Questions in Judicial Hearings

  by 00DAD in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've seen several posts on various threads about a particular "loyalty question" or two that elders ask during judicial hearings.

  granted it's been several years since i was an elder, but i never heard of this practice.

  is there anything officially in print on this from the wt?

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  Phizzy,

  They may ask you if you think the govening body is Gods sole channel of comunicating with his people here on earth or something simular.

  You can say yes or say any thoughts i have on that matter i would prefure to keep to myself.

  Karter.