Posts by karter

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What was covered up in your congregation??

by karter in

family move to remote pacific island to serve were the need is great get a mention in the year book.. however one of the (married) boys in the large family has sex with his sister while his wife is in hospital giving birth to their child.

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all hushed up not even a word said and hes now an elder d.fing people for lesser crimes.. young couple dating leave the jws and move in togather doing drugs partying ect.. his family grandfather,uncles, dad ect are all elders.. after a few years they decide to come back to the jws and are married in the k.h a few months latter.. 1 elder questions them getting married in the k.h and is voted down by his family.. to many drunks and c.s.a to mention.. karter..

karter

Family move to remote Pacific Island to serve were the need is great get a mention in the year book.

However one of the (Married) boys in the large family has sex with his sister while his wife is in Hospital giving birth to their child.

All hushed up not even a word said and hes now an Elder D.Fing people for lesser crimes.

Young couple dating leave the JWs and move in togather doing drugs partying ect.

His family Grandfather,Uncles, Dad ect are all Elders.

After a few years they decide to come back to the JWs and are Married in the K.H a few months latter.

1 Elder questions them getting married in the K.H and is voted down by his family.

To many drunks and C.S.A to mention.

Karter.

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Article: Jehovah's Witnesses lose court fight to obtain abuse inquiry report before victims

by Tahoe in

jehovah's witnesses have tried - and failed - to get an advance copy of the abuse in care inquiry's final report into their church.. the christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses australasia (ccjwa) filed an urgent claim in the high court in auckland on 21 june to obtain a copy of the final case study relating to the religious denomination in the inquiry's report, but the claim was dismissed.. it also unsuccessfully sought all relevant underlying documents supporting the case study.. in a separate case, the jehovah's witnesses also filed for leave to appeal to the supreme court after the court of appeal dismissed an earlier bid to avoid the scrutiny of the inquiry altogether.. rnz understands the ccjwa received and commented on a draft copy of the case study in may, but has yet to see a final draft.. if its high court claim had been successful, it could have led to the church receiving a copy before the government or abuse survivors had read the report.. jehovah's witnesses is the only religious group to take legal action against the commission.. it has taken similar action against public inquiries overseas, including in australia and the united kingdom.. in a statement, a jehovah's witnesses spokesperson said it had no choice but to go to court.. "we are in full agreement with the inquiry's objective to protect children but have serious concerns about the accuracy of the report regarding jehovah's witnesses.. "child protection is of utmost concern to jehovah's witnesses and we believe the people of new zealand, its decision-makers and most importantly survivors, deserve to be presented with accurate information.

we have no choice but to resort to court to address these issues.".

the inquiry is due to hand its final report to the governor-general on wednesday, wrapping up six years of work.. after that, it will be passed to internal affairs brooke van velden, who must table the report in parliament before it is made public.. that was expected to happen in the week beginning 22 july.. survivors of church abuse new zealand spokesperson and former jehovah's witnesses elder shayne mechen said former jehovah's witnesses members and survivors had been angered by the new court action.. "they are feeling angry and frustrated because it shows they [the church] don't care.".

karter

Notformer , The branch was on 10 acres of prime land sold for i belive $52 million to another church. They had owned it for many years so a good capitial gain there.

As usual anyone who said anything was quicky dissmissed as "Specking out against the organization" ect.

The head man at the branch was given a flat next to a K.H and demoted to now a nobody insted of being worshiped everywhere he went.... the rest were layed off to go into the wilderness after many years serving there.

Karter.

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Article: Jehovah's Witnesses lose court fight to obtain abuse inquiry report before victims

by Tahoe in

jehovah's witnesses have tried - and failed - to get an advance copy of the abuse in care inquiry's final report into their church.. the christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses australasia (ccjwa) filed an urgent claim in the high court in auckland on 21 june to obtain a copy of the final case study relating to the religious denomination in the inquiry's report, but the claim was dismissed.. it also unsuccessfully sought all relevant underlying documents supporting the case study.. in a separate case, the jehovah's witnesses also filed for leave to appeal to the supreme court after the court of appeal dismissed an earlier bid to avoid the scrutiny of the inquiry altogether.. rnz understands the ccjwa received and commented on a draft copy of the case study in may, but has yet to see a final draft.. if its high court claim had been successful, it could have led to the church receiving a copy before the government or abuse survivors had read the report.. jehovah's witnesses is the only religious group to take legal action against the commission.. it has taken similar action against public inquiries overseas, including in australia and the united kingdom.. in a statement, a jehovah's witnesses spokesperson said it had no choice but to go to court.. "we are in full agreement with the inquiry's objective to protect children but have serious concerns about the accuracy of the report regarding jehovah's witnesses.. "child protection is of utmost concern to jehovah's witnesses and we believe the people of new zealand, its decision-makers and most importantly survivors, deserve to be presented with accurate information.

we have no choice but to resort to court to address these issues.".

the inquiry is due to hand its final report to the governor-general on wednesday, wrapping up six years of work.. after that, it will be passed to internal affairs brooke van velden, who must table the report in parliament before it is made public.. that was expected to happen in the week beginning 22 july.. survivors of church abuse new zealand spokesperson and former jehovah's witnesses elder shayne mechen said former jehovah's witnesses members and survivors had been angered by the new court action.. "they are feeling angry and frustrated because it shows they [the church] don't care.".

karter

Notformer , They closed the N.Z Bethell a few years ago now all handled out of Australia.

The Legal team is a "Kings council" employed by the J.Ws at $1000 nzd an hour plus his side kid at im guessing $700 an hour add the $8000 a day for the high court and it adds up to plenty.

Karter.

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Article: Jehovah's Witnesses lose court fight to obtain abuse inquiry report before victims

by Tahoe in

jehovah's witnesses have tried - and failed - to get an advance copy of the abuse in care inquiry's final report into their church.. the christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses australasia (ccjwa) filed an urgent claim in the high court in auckland on 21 june to obtain a copy of the final case study relating to the religious denomination in the inquiry's report, but the claim was dismissed.. it also unsuccessfully sought all relevant underlying documents supporting the case study.. in a separate case, the jehovah's witnesses also filed for leave to appeal to the supreme court after the court of appeal dismissed an earlier bid to avoid the scrutiny of the inquiry altogether.. rnz understands the ccjwa received and commented on a draft copy of the case study in may, but has yet to see a final draft.. if its high court claim had been successful, it could have led to the church receiving a copy before the government or abuse survivors had read the report.. jehovah's witnesses is the only religious group to take legal action against the commission.. it has taken similar action against public inquiries overseas, including in australia and the united kingdom.. in a statement, a jehovah's witnesses spokesperson said it had no choice but to go to court.. "we are in full agreement with the inquiry's objective to protect children but have serious concerns about the accuracy of the report regarding jehovah's witnesses.. "child protection is of utmost concern to jehovah's witnesses and we believe the people of new zealand, its decision-makers and most importantly survivors, deserve to be presented with accurate information.

we have no choice but to resort to court to address these issues.".

the inquiry is due to hand its final report to the governor-general on wednesday, wrapping up six years of work.. after that, it will be passed to internal affairs brooke van velden, who must table the report in parliament before it is made public.. that was expected to happen in the week beginning 22 july.. survivors of church abuse new zealand spokesperson and former jehovah's witnesses elder shayne mechen said former jehovah's witnesses members and survivors had been angered by the new court action.. "they are feeling angry and frustrated because it shows they [the church] don't care.".

karter

I live in New Zealand and can tell them about many C.S.A cases.

1 Elder a child rapest.

1 M.S C.S.A with his 3 sisters.

Many more.

Karter

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Who Was The Biggest Jackass Circuit Overseer You Ever Met?

by Sea Breeze in

there was on older white-haired circuit overseer in houston around 1989 or 1990. last name started with a w i think.... not sure though.

even the most brain-dead robotic elders told me he was offensive.

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karter

New Zealand and he was in Australia "Hans Hubbler" stopped during a talk at an assembly to ask the attendents to remove a crying baby.

Was a rude arrogant man who loved the power and loved to use it.

They had problems getting anyone to have him and his equally horable wife for meals.

When he intoduced the C.O who took over from him (Merv cant remember last his name) He said "This is the guy who trained me" He was basicly sayng you think im an arsehole this guy trained me....Turned out to be one of the best C.Os we had.

Karter.

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JW's lost their appeal to avoid investigation by a New Zealand Royal Commission

by AndersonsInfo in

the jehovah's witnesses have lost their appeal to avoid investigation by a new zealand royal commission.

"a legal bid by the jehovah's witness church challenging a ruling by the royal commission of inquiry into abuse in care has been dismissed by the court of appeal.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/515102/abuse-in-care-inquiry-jehovah-s-witness-appeal-dismissed.

karter

They can appeal to the supreme court and my guess is they will.

They have a $1000 ( about $600 usd) an hour Kings Council lawyer and his high priced hangers on .

My hope is the supreme court will not hear it.

They have awarded cost to the crown so keep those donations comming they need it.

Karter.

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Beautiful photos

by LoveUniHateExams in

so, i thought i'd start a thread about any beautiful photos of places you've been to, or just beautiful photos.. i'll go first .... .

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copyright: daniel burton.. this is bøur, a little village in the faeroe islands, population 74.. i've never been there but i'd love to visit one day.

karter

Mt Taranaki in the summer.

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Beautiful photos

by LoveUniHateExams in

so, i thought i'd start a thread about any beautiful photos of places you've been to, or just beautiful photos.. i'll go first .... .

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copyright: daniel burton.. this is bøur, a little village in the faeroe islands, population 74.. i've never been there but i'd love to visit one day.

karter

Hokianga habour North Island New zealand

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Beautiful photos

by LoveUniHateExams in

so, i thought i'd start a thread about any beautiful photos of places you've been to, or just beautiful photos.. i'll go first .... .

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copyright: daniel burton.. this is bøur, a little village in the faeroe islands, population 74.. i've never been there but i'd love to visit one day.

karter

Murawi Beach North Island new zealand.

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NZ Article: Abuse in care inquiry: Jehovah's Witness church appeals dismissal of bid for exclusion

by Tahoe in

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/511603/abuse-in-care-inquiry-jehovah-s-witness-church-appeals-dismissal-of-bid-for-exclusion .

the jehovah's witness church is appealing the high court's dismissal of its legal bid to get out of being part of the abuse in care inquiry.. the high court in wellington dismissed its application for a judicial review in october after a three-year behind-the-scenes battle between the church and the inquiry.. a hearing is set for 21 march in the court of appeal in wellington.. in a letter to survivors today, the inquiry said it could not comment further as the matter was before the court, but it would have wellbeing support available at the hearing for survivors who attend.. the christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses australasia said it considered the high court judgment "contained errors of law which is seeks to challenge".. "given the matter is again active litigation, it is not appropriate for ccjwa to disclose anything further at this point," it said in a statement.. the church sought a judicial review to be exempt from the inquiry, arguing it was beyond the inquiry's scope because it did not run institutions that cared for children or vulnerable people.. in her judgment, justice ellis said the jehovah's witness church did not have a "fundamental right to avoid scrutiny".. the church's claim that its policies prevented elders - who are like ministers - from spending time alone with children, was also thrown out by ellis, who said evidence provided to the inquiry, and from overseas, showed otherwise.. the inquiry's scope was expanded to include faith-based institutions in november 2018 after lobbying from religious groups and survivors.

the jehovah's witness faith is the only group to oppose being involved, culminating in its application for a judicial review in may 2023..

karter

Nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide. I live in N.Z and can tell them of many C.S.A cases.

Karter.