Do you know of any current witnesses who smoke marijuana, even rarely?
Did you ever smoke weed while you were still a witness?
Do you smoke it now?
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Do you know of any current witnesses who smoke marijuana, even rarely?
Did you ever smoke weed while you were still a witness?
Do you smoke it now?
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i can remember those written reviews.
you got them in the kingdumb misery inserts (potential to cheat on them).
of course, when you got to the kingdumb hell that night, you were supposed to write the answers on a separate sheet of paper.
ahhh, my favorite meeting. I miss the silent part. It was so peaceful, with all the rustling of papers and click of pens.
I could let my mind wander without disstraction.
I felt almost Quaker
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like the topic says: have you ever heard of someone.
being disfellowshipped or reproved for voting?.
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Like the topic says: Have you ever heard of someone
being disfellowshipped or reproved for voting?
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p.s.
Technically, it is "A Conscience Matter", but I can't
help thinking that is loaded double-speak:
"If someone decides to go to the polling booth, that is his decision. What he does in the polling booth is between him and his Creator."
"The voters do what they will with their ballots. So here in the presence of God is where his witnesses must act in harmony with his commandments and in accordance with their faith. It is not our responsibility to instruct them what to do with the ballot."
"Or what if individuals, while not legally obliged to vote, are severely penalized in some way if they do not go to the polling booth? In these and similar situations, a Christian has to make his own decision. "Each one will carry his own load."—Galatians 6:5.
There may be people who are stumbled when they observe that during an election in their country, some Witnesses of Jehovah go to the polling booth and others do not. They may say, ‘Jehovah’s Witnesses are not consistent.’ People should recognize, though, that in matters of individual conscience such as this, each Christian has to make his own decision before Jehovah God."
i was a lurker here for a few weeks before breaking keyboard silence,.
and the warmth and support i have received since has been remarkable.. i feel my posts are carefully read, accurately understood, and .
thoughtfully responded to.. the odd thing is that even though i feel i am now an active part of.
I was a lurker here for a few weeks before breaking keyboard silence,
and the warmth and support I have received since has been remarkable.
I feel my posts are carefully read, accurately understood, and
thoughtfully responded to.
The odd thing is that even though I feel I am now an active part of
this community, I still feel a bit like a leech...
This is because I start a post, get a dozen or so wonderful comments
in reply, but very seldom do I reply to the replies; I don't turn it
into a dialog, I simply put my question or mini essay out there, and
wait for the critics to write their reviews.
This is mostly because I feel that if I DO take the time to actually
respond in any length IN TOPIC, it might never be read by anyone.
I don't know how long an actual dialog can last before the thread gets
swept on downstream and forgotten.
If anyone wants to enlighten me on some social dynamics I am missing
here, feel free.
Regardless, I just want to let you all know just how much I appreciate
YOU taking the time to post comments to my threads. You are so helpful
and encouraging, and I do not take you for granted.
Thank you, all.
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it would seem that i am broken.
at least, to hear my dad talk about me.. we had a phone conversation the other day and he said that i need to.
do something to advert my current "drifting" course.. he said "i though we had agreed that you would set the goal of a date when.
It would seem that I am broken.
At least, to hear my dad talk about me.
We had a phone conversation the other day and he said that I need to
do something to advert my current "drifting" course.
He said "I though we had agreed that you would set the goal of a date when
this would be resolved by."
Seriously. A deadline. Like a homework project that is due.
Bear in mind that I am a grown, married adult living in a different congregation.
His tone was disturbingly patriarchal. I felt like I was a 12 yr old getting
a stern talking to- like "now son, you really need to fix your life."
I think he has been patient and tolerant up to this point because he was
hoping that if he gave me some time and space I would get to that point
where the warm fuzzies kick back in and I go "Oh yeaaah... I'm so over that
doubting phase. When can I pioneer again?"
I think he even holds out hope that I will eventually be reappointed as a MS.
He dosnt say this, but I have a hunch that is what my parents are feeling, besides
worry of being in paradise without me, or me raising them up little apostate grand babies.
The thing is, I really want to avoid the big DF, and when we are talking about
OTHER things besides my spiritual future, I get along great with both my
parents. I like our relationship, and I want to salvage the good parts, but
I dont want them to think that this is a "drifting" that they can stop.
I want them to let me live my own life and be OK with it.
I want them to realize that I have gone past the point of
"doubting" and have landed on the other side. There is
no turning back, and they really, really don't want to
believe that.
Is there anything I can say to them that makes it clear that I am NOT drifting,
but paddling... without landing me in a JC?
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ok, so whenever i would question the justice of the df policy, i kept.
getting the same line (even from my dad, an elder):.
people are not disfellowshipped because of the actual sin, they are.
But , you're better off being out from under their control !
for sure, once you are removed of remove yourself from the witness circle
you are no longer under their control... But I don't think one has to get
disfellowshiped to take back your own life. We choose who has authority
over us. If you make your own conscientious decisions and refuse to be
put on a guilt trip by the elders, how are you still being controlled by them?
Recently I stopped going to the Book Study altogether. They no longer even
ask me about it.
I have to admit though, an evening spent with my parents sure brings back
feelings of guilt.
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ok, so whenever i would question the justice of the df policy, i kept.
getting the same line (even from my dad, an elder):.
people are not disfellowshipped because of the actual sin, they are.
Ok, so whenever I would question the justice of the DF policy, I kept
getting the same line (even from my dad, an elder):
People are not disfellowshipped because of the actual SIN, they are
disfellowshipped because of their unrepentance. You can do something
really really bad, but if you are really really SORRY, you will not get
DF'd.
Is this true?
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i am half way through this book by carl o. jonsson and the more i read the more certain i become that the 607bce date for the destruction of jerusalem by babylon is nothing more than a fabrication designed to uphold 1914 and hence the "authority" of the watchtower leadership.it makes me sick to think of how they have duped millions of people with their phoney chronology.it makes sitting through studies that mention these dates irritating to say the least.especially when all the heads nod in unison at the mention of the "magic 607"
I am half way through this book
Hey, me too! Seriously, the book just makes me want to throw something at the wall. Or the GB. Excellent piece of work.
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i remember having to read george orwell's "animal farm" in 11th grade.
it was a mandatory assignment and after our readings there were discussions.
a few years later, my own mother whom had worked in a local psychiatric unit related to me that she felt the borganization closely resembled animal farm and also 1984. this was truly striking to me, but now more than ever it makes sense on so many levels.
ooo... The Windmill = 1975!
this is a great thread :)
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i remember having to read george orwell's "animal farm" in 11th grade.
it was a mandatory assignment and after our readings there were discussions.
a few years later, my own mother whom had worked in a local psychiatric unit related to me that she felt the borganization closely resembled animal farm and also 1984. this was truly striking to me, but now more than ever it makes sense on so many levels.
where'd the link go (?)
It was deleted by the govenerning pigs!! Lol.
Sorry, the link I posted first was to the google cache version, and that version was broken, so I posted the corect one up there ^