Definitely the Internet is an eye opener. However, it does require the right kind of person, somebody who, as she states, is burning inside. Only then, in my opinion, you will eventually give yourself permission to open up and learn more.
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Quote from Manal al-Sharif
by FayeDunaway inmanal al-sharif is a saudi arabian former extremist muslim who was liberalized by the internet and became a women's rights activist in her country.
reading this quote i was struck that her experience is similar to a jehovahs witness experience, including mine, and gives me hope that many more people who are brought up in extremist environments will wake up, no matter what their backgrounds.
the internet is a fabulous thing.
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Survey: How long were you in the cult vs what year you were baptized
by ILoveTTATT2 inhi people,.
i want as much data as possible on the effect of the internet on the time captured by the cult.. please answer the three following questions about yourself or about someone you know (for example, if your parents or grandparents were jw's and left).
1) were you raised as a jw, or did you convert?.
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1) Raised
2) 1985
3) 2009
24 Years...
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Scriptures that will never be the YEAR TEXT
by ttdtt inso what scriptures do you think will never make the cut?i will start off with one to warm you all up.. 1 corinthians 4:6 - do not go beyond the things that are written,.
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Ezekiel 23:20 She lusted after them like the concubines of men whose male members are like those of a donkey and whose genitals are like those of a horse. -
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Feeling rejected
by Esmeralda001 injust a little disclaimer: english isn't my first language (i'm from france) thus the poor writing skills.here is the situation: i'm not a jw.
however, i'm in the process of becoming one.
in fact, i'm studying with the jw's, and i'll proceed to become an unbaptized publisher as soon as i finish the first book.to make a long story short i was introduced to the truth when i was 18een.
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I won't be rushing into baptism without having the full picture. It isn't in my interest to let my study instructor know what I have been up to lately so i'll try to be discrete about me visiting "apostasic website" (like french jw like to call it). I need to gather info from both parties so that i'm able to fully understand what it is all about.
Hi Esmeralda,
I very seldom comment here, but seeing your "evolution" has prompted me to comment. Most people who land on this forum without knowing that it is not pro JW, run like crazy when they find out it's mostly ex-JWs.
In your case, you have the correct philosophy as I've quoted above, namely:
- Do not rush without having the FULL PICTURE and,
- Gather info from BOTH PARTIES so you can FULLY UNDERSTAND.
I think those two are key. Kudos to you! I just wish more people who are in would recognize the importance of those 2 factors.
Have a great day and greetings from Germany
Vivalavida
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Caleb and Sofia used to brainwash children
by shattered_origins inokay, i need to vent.
as a newly awoken individual, i have yet to "come out" to my hard core jdub parents.
my plan was to lay low and use my unbelieving husband and baby as an excuse for my "inactivity", it has worked for the last few months.
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Shattered Origins, I don't post here often but this made me come out of my silence.
I agree that you have to do something to put a stop to this madness. So, I'd like to offer a TECHNICAL SOLUTION to the problem. I don't know whether your husband or you have some technical skills or if you can ask a friend to do this for you.
There is a free DNS service (DNS is like a telephone book that helps your computer find different websites on the internet) that allows you to block dubious websites and you can include specific ones like jw.org.
This way, at least from your computers / tablets / cellphones at home that are connected to your router or WI-FI nobody will be able to go to that website.
The service is called openDNS and you can find it here: https://store.opendns.com/get/home-free
Another option, if you only have ONE family computer, would be to follow these instructions provided you use Windows on your computer.
I know it all sounds very technical, but it is actually not that complicated and once it is setup, it should work without problems. Obviously, if your mom is accessing jw.org on HER own phone without connecting to your WI-FI it won't work. But you could offer access to it, so that every time she walks into your house it connects to your wi-fi and your filtering kicks in.
I see this as another option you could use which would enforce whatever you want in terms of websites.
Just my 2 cents!
Vivalavida
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What woke you up?
by Israel Ricky Gonzales inin march of 2014, i was a very active jw, a ministerial servant, gave a public talk, was an attendant for the memorial, and one of 4 cleaning captains for an international convention of 40,000+ attendees.
so what woke me up?
an innocent comment from a co-worker about the candice conti court case rang a bell that could not be unrung.
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Pedophile story on NBC in 2007, then the Sept. Kingdom Ministry NOT condoning people to get together to study the Bible. My thought immediately was, "Do they have something to hide?"
I had already heard of the Mexico / Malawi connection and the UN debacle like 10 years before but deleted it from my mind. But after those two events mentioned in the first paragraph, I gave myself permission and just did what you did. Checked everything and "that was it for me"... FREEDOM AT LAST after almost 40 years in the religion.
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Telling Parents About TTATT
by ivanatahan inmy parents are zealous jecultah's blindnesses, but my sister and i are not.
because of this, we are limited in our abilities/opportunities in life.
mu parents hate my sister because she went to college and started a full time job and thus isn't able to go to meetings or service.
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Assembly Invitations: A Sad, Pathetic Anachronism
by metatron inso, witlesses are handing out assembly invitations locally for their gatherings to invite the public to attend...... .
a meeting that's 50, 100, 150 miles away?
there was an era when placards were put in storefront windows and bombastic sermons were delivered by radio.
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Yep, here in Germany they came to my house and handed the invitation. If I were to attend, I'd have to travel almost two hours to go there. I tried to talk about the invitation, but they practically refused, insisting that they JUST wanted to leave it and that was it. But they would love to see me there! LOL!
Weird!
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FAT BURNERS????
by DATA-DOG ini need a good fat-burner.
i am getting some serious love handles, and a gross poochy belly.
yeah, yeah...i drink almost every night, and this has been going on for almost 2 years, blah, blah..hic!?
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DD, just drop the carbs, specially the refined ones. Physiologically, whenever we eat more carbs than be stored in our muscles and liver, which is about 400 grams in total, it just gets stored as fat! And, if you don't use that by exercising, it stays there but normally, we keep eating carbs every day, at every single meal, plus snacks and dessert, which also tend to be carbs based. Results? Fat gets accummulated on and on and on until one day we wake up and realize, oops... I've got love handles, pot belly, beer belly or anything of the sort.
Key is to adapt your carb intake to your activity level. You barely do anything physical? You barely need any carbs. Protein you need according to your weight, so it's an easy to calculate amount. The rest, to make up your required calorie intake for a particular day, should be met with good fats. Olive oil, coconut oil, butter and the sort. Believe me, for people over 30, it's the easiest way!
If you want to REALLY understand how and why our generation gets fatter than previous generations, read Gary Taubes' "Good Calories, Bad Calories" book.
One thing that I love, I get to have my bacon and eggs breakfast everyday and I'm still keeping fit, without doing any cardio whatsoever.
Hope this opens a something you can investigate a bit...
Just my 2 cents,
vivalavida
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Don't Blame the Organization for Imperfect Humans
by ranmac ini think everyone here has heard this as a response to questioning or serious concerns about the religion.
i think its a cowardly retort.
a flimsy cop-out.
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Erm, one question: What IS the ORGANIZATION?
Organization is just an administrative structure to achieve a goal in an "organized" manner. It does not think, it does not feel, it doesn't even do anything. It doesn't breath and therefore cannot be blamed for anything.
It's the PEOPLE that are to blame, the people that come together with the intention of achieving something. The whole thing is completely illogical. There is, in the real world, no personification of an organization, like there is no personification of "wisdom". It's just a figure of speech that people have come to believe. It's just another CONCEPT that brings people further away from REALITY.
Seen from this standpoint, they are all guilty, the so called Organization and, more importantly, the people behind it. Now and in the past. It doesn't matter that they are imperfect, they created the concept to fool people and that makes them guilty as charged.
Just my 2 cents
Vivalavida