so it was only my mother, two of my sisters and i that had to move.
you cant really play soccer by yourself.. i turn to the jws for friends but there were no kids my age and kids a few years older than me started to hate me.
i liked the elder saw him as my dad i didnt want to say no.
Atrapado - Yes, the congregation in Germany was a spanish one. Although I also spent a year in a spanish congregation in NY before moving to Germany and can understand perfectly your situation, specially the correcting of pronunciation, etc.
You cannot read my story because I haven't written it yet. Maybe one day I'll just sit down and do it. I
Vivalavida
i just posted the message below in another thread, but decided to make it a separate topic.
would like to know your experience with operating systems, linux, or other related material.
i left windows and microsoft behind years ago for linux.
Here is a list of things you could do using Linux and open source without spending an extra cent:
And all of this, without spending an extra cent. To me, is much better than being trapped in the walled gardens of the commercial software, even though I do have to use it due to being paid to support it. But at home, it's not only liberating, it is also fun being able to just try new stuff all the time and learn so much about how things work. Just my 2 cents.
Vivalavida
Wonderment - Those are exactly my thoughts. I am also a big fan of Linux and use it privately for 99.9% of stuff and if I need Windows for something, normally it is in a virtual machine and gets deleted relatively often. I love your comment below and agree with it:
Using Linux and open source software whenever possible is liberating... the feeling is somewhat like leaving Watchtower slavery and finding that you don't need a frail "faithful and discreet slave" to mediate between you and God. Christ, suddenly has greater value.
Satanus - Yes, Firefox works on Linux as well as Chrome, Google Earth and a bunch of other programs out there and for others you have very good replacements.
Concerning Windows 8 yes, I installed it on my Wife's computer (30€ buy direct from Microsoft). It is a little weird the constant switching between tablet mode and desktop mode.
What I don't like is the ability of Microsoft of deleting stuff that was installed from their store, whenever THEY decide to do so.
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/microsoft-can-remove-apps-and-data-from-windows-8-devices/16998
Vivalavida
so it was only my mother, two of my sisters and i that had to move.
you cant really play soccer by yourself.. i turn to the jws for friends but there were no kids my age and kids a few years older than me started to hate me.
i liked the elder saw him as my dad i didnt want to say no.
Hey Atrapado, welcome. Your story and mine are very similar. Only that I did not actually move as a kid to the US but stayed in Honduras and moved years later to Germany. Just like you, I was considered a good reader at 12, giving talk #4 since being 11, always ready to jump in when somebody did not show up for their part in the TS. You have brought a lot of memories back... looking forward for part 2.
Bienvenido hombre,
Vivalavida
i have been around in this forum a lot but haven't written much yet.. also i had a more or less rude awakening when i realized that the religion i grew up with, the religion i sacrificed a lot for and considered to be the 'truth' is nothing but mere bs.
it's quite a brick to digest.. my parents both are jws, elder and pioneer.
very good people but also very brainwashed.
Hi Gefangene, welcome to the forum. Also hello to you Sauerkraut. I also live in Germany (only half german though). Used to attend a spanish congo. I definitely understand about staying in for the parents, specially if they are old. I did not and now it is hard to even talk to my mother (she lives in south america) without her breaking down into a sea of tears. She is going to be 79 soon. So, it is definitely hard.
Regards,
Vivalavida
many are looking forward to the new iphone 5 after awhile they will be disappointed.. just like jw always looking forward to a new release at d.c. only to be disappointed.. they always look for some new thing.you see new always intrigues but never satisfies..
Wouldn't you call the new Generation doctrine "innovation"?
Vivalavida!
sometimes people with ordinary understandings and expectations encounter things outside their experience.. they deal with it and move on.
they tell people and answer questions.. eventually, somebody explains it and the incident (and the story) goes underground.. .
......only to re-emerge.. if it is an unusual incident or report eventually there will be others who come along.
Terry I agree with the above 100%. That happened back then in Bible times and keeps happening up to our times.
My main issue was only with the fact that your answers sounded too absolutist for my taste. I do believe that context, circumstances, personality and experience will always color information provided. That, however, happens even in many scientific circles and is one of the reasons why peer review exists.
I think one problem in the UFO discussion above had to do with the impression that UFO = Aliens, when in fact the acronym UFO implies very clearly "unidentified".
vivalavida
sometimes people with ordinary understandings and expectations encounter things outside their experience.. they deal with it and move on.
they tell people and answer questions.. eventually, somebody explains it and the incident (and the story) goes underground.. .
......only to re-emerge.. if it is an unusual incident or report eventually there will be others who come along.
Forgot the link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1952_Washington_D.C._UFO_incident
sometimes people with ordinary understandings and expectations encounter things outside their experience.. they deal with it and move on.
they tell people and answer questions.. eventually, somebody explains it and the incident (and the story) goes underground.. .
......only to re-emerge.. if it is an unusual incident or report eventually there will be others who come along.
So everyone who has seen a UFO has not "seen" a UFO, but has "seen" something else?
Terry, I think Night Owl's question is warranted. You cannot, and I reapeat, cannot say that "everyone" who claims having seen a UFO has not seen a UFO. The mere name UFO implies that it is a flying object that cannot be identified. Implying that "always" when people see something that you do not believe in, or cannot understand or explain with what we already know from the world "at this point in time" is not what they saw, is simply a bit arrogant.
It is true that "mostly" when people refer to UFOs, they are thinking of alien crafts but that is not the case "always" if we go by what the acronym UFO stands for. I guess my point is that there are, in fact, objects in the sky that cannot be identified or, in other words, they cannot be paired with known objects that, according to our knowledge at this time, could be found flying in the sky. Now, if you are referring to the "interpretation" that this people give to what they saw, then you might have a point.
Here is one example of several people seeing something that they could not explain. What did they see? If you remove the interpretations, there is always the fact, that they saw what they saw, even on a radarscope, and could not explain it, therefore UFOs
i haven't been on as much here, lately.. is there anything new??
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What about the Australian Child Labor case from Mr. Unthank? That's new, I think!
