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  He killed them because they expelled him from the Jehovah's Witnesses - Canal de Noticia (Venezuela), Nov 28, 2017 - Two JWs found murdered

  by darkspilver in

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  this tragic story has been developing over the last couple of days in venezuela.

  there is a mixture of reports and accounts coming in..... two jehovah's witnesses (and fleshly sisters) aged 71 and 65, where found murdered.

  a 26 year male suspect has been arrested.. in the apartment where the two where found dead, the words "death to witnesses" (“muerte a los testigos”) had been scrawled onto one of the walls.. he killed them because they expelled him from the jehovah's witnesses - canal de noticia, nov 28, 2017. .

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  The articles linked in reddit do say that the sisters expelled him. Obviously the journalists have no clue how things work in JW world. In other articles though, the explanation is definitely clearer. They do imply some type of revenge because the sisters as well as the perpetrator, a music teacher, were JWs. Whereby he was recently expelled.

  It is obvious that he is the murdered because they captured him in his house where they found a computer that belonged to the sisters, dresses with blood of the sisters and the marker he used to write "Muerte a los testigos" (Death to the witnesses) in the victims' apartment.

  A tragic situation.

  Vivalavida
  
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  Non JW wife/JW husband Christmas tree debate

  by spacegirl443 in

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  first post here and looking for advice and help.

  sorry in advance for it being so long :(.

  i'm a happily married woman (no kids) who is a non-jw, presbyterian to be precise.

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  Testing the links, they seem not to work directly. If they don't, go to this link:

  http://jw-wayback.org/static1/bibliotheque

  and navigate from there to "English" then "Magazines" and from there pick "Awake" or "The Watchtower" and go from there. The pages on the respective PDFs are on my previous post.

  I hope it helps.

  Vivalavida
  
  
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  Non JW wife/JW husband Christmas tree debate

  by spacegirl443 in

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  2. friends

  first post here and looking for advice and help.

  sorry in advance for it being so long :(.

  i'm a happily married woman (no kids) who is a non-jw, presbyterian to be precise.

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  Hi Spacegirl,

  Welcome to the forum!

  I have read the whole thread with lots of interest. I believe all the ideas and tips from the others here are on spot. I definitely hope that it all works out for you and your JW husband. I am of the opinion that if you manage to work out all the quirks and problems caused by one of you being a JW and you love each other, you should stay together.
  

  I just wanted to share an interesting link with you about an article I recently read. I think the more you know and the more arguments you have, the better. Not that he will accept them, but information never hurts in my opinion.
  

  Here is the article: "The Myth of the Pagan Origin of Christmas".
  

  Having said that, I do agree with the others that it has much more weight to use their own literature, as in the already mentioned article from the 1960 Watchtower which, by the way, you can read in its totality online HERE, just go to page 736.

  The other article from the Awake of July 2009: "Is it wrong to change your religion" can also be read online, just go to page 220 on that PDF.

  I definitely believe those two articles are your best bet.

  Just my two cents.

  Vivalavida
  
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  Need to know the source of a piece of information

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  i am translating the article of the "last days" in jwfacts.. there is a statement i cannot verify.. between 310 and 312 a.d. plague killed up to 99% of people in the northwestern provinces of china.. it seems to have come from the following book:.

  end time visions: the road to armageddon.i cannot read that book, it seems to be on scribd, but i can´t download it.. https://www.scribd.com/document/287995996/armageddon.

  could someone find that piece of information in the book and let me know in what source i can confirm the information?i cannot find anywhere that states such a thing....

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  Page 274 on that Armageddon book (which is page 280 on the PDF file)

  
  
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  A WTF Moment While In the WTS

  by Searching in

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  has anyone else had a moment, while still within the organization (and before learning ttatt) that caused them to stop and go, "this is kind of messed up.".

  for instance, back i believe in the early 2000's, i was attending a dc with my family.

  it was announced at the beginning of the convention that there was going to be a special announcement at the end, so for everyone to please try to remain until the very end of the meeting.

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  For me, it was this in "Our Kindom Ministry" from September 2007 (wow over ten years already). It made me wonder what were they trying to hide and resulted in me giving myself permission to do some research and, as they say, everything after that is history.

  

  Vivalavida.
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  Lunar Eclipses and 607/587 BCE as the date of Jerusalem´s Fall

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  i am doing a very extensive document, it is a work in progress, that details how to know, just using a list of eclipses in the 6th and 7th century bce, excel, and knowing how to read lunar eclipse graphs and maps, that jerusalem fell in 587 b.c.e., and not 607 b.c.e.

  as the watchtower states.currently it is in spanish, but i intend to translate it to english later.for those who speak spanish, here it is:.

  https://sites.google.com/site/laverdadtj2/los-eclipses-lunares-y-la-watchtower.

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  Wow, excellent work. El resto de tu página también está de primera ILoveTTATT2. I am marking your google site for later reference. Interesting info you have there.

  Thanks
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  Do I Sit or Stand For The Anthem Now!?!?

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my conscience is so split now!.

  if i sit, i am taking part in a political movement and getting involved in satan's system of things!.

  if i stand, i am showing that i agree with satan's system and i am worshiping idols.. in all seriousness, witnesses loved this one because it made them "stand out".

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  Very interesting article on this subject. In fact, it's all about freedom of conscience. Of course, JWs won't ever understand that, even though they call a lot of things a 'conscience matter'.
  
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  JW's are S.O.B's

  by James Mixon in

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  i didn't say it, it was the president....

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  And the Washington Post also agrees with you as well...
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  NEVER SAY DIE

  by compound complex in

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  some men would despair to be in my place.. i am immobile; this would seem an irreparable blow to what i have always perceived as the defining characteristics of manhood: taking risks, conquering new territory, marching forward with confidence toward a future of assured promise and prosperity.

  however, this injury to my legs has become the final blow.

  over the years, my once sturdy frame has been weakened by chronic illness.

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  An inspiration!
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  A cashless society

  by fulltimestudent in

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  for thousands of years some material form of money has been important in daily.

  but now, all over the world, there is a move toward a cashless society - a society where out wealth exists in an electronic form.. perhaps, no other country has moved as quickly toward that notion than china.. a report today on china's peoples daily (english) web-site claims that 84% of chinese can now leave home without cash in their wallet/pocket.

  as i understand it they will make payments via a smartphone app.. ( see: http://en.people.cn/n3/2017/0924/c90000-9273002.html ).

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  This is one of the reasons cryptocurrencies are becoming a bit more popular right now. I mean decentralized electronic money like Bitcoin, Ethereum and Monero, to mention a few.

  Coins like Monero, that is highly privacy oriented, might somehow help reproduce the idea of cash in a highly electronic world. The only problem is precisely the fact that it's still electronic and requires modern technology and communication to thrive.

  On the other hand, in countries like Venezuela, a huge Bitcoin community has been able to somehow counter the effect of runaway inflation and somehow protect some of the value of their hard earned money, even though the government tries hard to control everything.

  At least this way, one could emulate the 'saving money under the mattress' world of the "past".

  Just my 2 cents

  Vivalavida