Well....the fiance and I set up the xmas tree last night. I've been out for seven years now and amazingly this is my first tree. It's pretty cool actually! I I wasn't sure how it would be, or if I'd even care at all, but it's really nice having it up and I'm super excited for next week
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by feenx inwell....the fiance and i set up the xmas tree last night.
i've been out for seven years now and amazingly this is my first tree.
it's pretty cool actually!
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Has there every been a JWD census?
by feenx ini'm curious if there's ever been a poll or some kind of jwd census.
how many apostates, active jw's, faded, df'd, da'd are there on the forum?
how about how many who were once jw's but now have moved on to another religion versus those who now have no affiliation?
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feenx
I'm curious if there's ever been a poll or some kind of JWD census. How many apostates, active JW's, faded, DF'd, DA'd are there on the forum? How about how many who were once JW's but now have moved on to another religion versus those who now have no affiliation? I'd be interested to know the breakdown....
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conversation with wife
by inbetween injust a short info: my wife is not aware of me being here, and its not the time to tell her yet.. however, i time and again raise questions or even disagreement with some teachings of the wts, and she readily accepts them, but still believes, it is "the truth".
but the other day, she talked about the anointed, the number going up, instead of down, and even saying, that maybe the number 144.000 is not literal after all, but maybe symbolic like everything else in revelation.. i said, i would not be surprised, if "new light" comes sooner or later.. she said, that the term "new light" seems overused,.
i realised my chance, and put this thought deeper, example "generation" teaching, how it went from new, to newer, and back to older teachings etc... .
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feenx
I remember being 8 years old and when I first heard about this whole "replacement" nonesense even then it felt hoaky.
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conversation with wife
by inbetween injust a short info: my wife is not aware of me being here, and its not the time to tell her yet.. however, i time and again raise questions or even disagreement with some teachings of the wts, and she readily accepts them, but still believes, it is "the truth".
but the other day, she talked about the anointed, the number going up, instead of down, and even saying, that maybe the number 144.000 is not literal after all, but maybe symbolic like everything else in revelation.. i said, i would not be surprised, if "new light" comes sooner or later.. she said, that the term "new light" seems overused,.
i realised my chance, and put this thought deeper, example "generation" teaching, how it went from new, to newer, and back to older teachings etc... .
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feenx
Wait, I am totally out of the loop. What's this about the number of the 144,000 going up instead of down?? this I must hear!
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68 years ago today....
by sir82 in"a date which will live...in infamy".
anybody here remember it firsthand?.
there must be very few actual vets left who were there, and the number gets smaller every year.. .
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feenx
Wow....68 years. It's so odd to me to realize how long ago it was. Obviously with history study we all know the dates. But it was always something that I remembered from my grandfather as his youth. He and his two brothers all went to Leavenworth together because once drafted they refused to fight in WWII. So it was just one of those things that happened when he was a kid. But now he's gone, as are many of the vets, and it's something that slips a little further away each day, yet the aftermath remains.
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Does it still gross you out, so to speak?
by feenx ini remember back in the day my mother, along with all her "friends," being completely disgusted and voicing said disgust, over what she felt were hypocritical people and jesus "lovers" such as tv evangelists, people who could do nothing but talk about jesus, people who were all about their version of christianity, especially the ones encountered in service that tried to instruct her versus listening to "the truth" she was "sharing" with them.
now, she had these opinions obviously because she was a devout jw, and especially at this time of year she was very vocal.
good god, it was pretty much 6 weeks of loathing coming out of her mouth at the end of every year.. do you find yourself, as an adult, with the same irriations but just for different reasons?
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feenx
I remember back in the day my mother, along with all her "friends," being completely disgusted and voicing said disgust, over what she felt were hypocritical people and Jesus "lovers" such as TV evangelists, people who could do nothing but talk about Jesus, people who were all about their version of Christianity, especially the ones encountered in service that tried to instruct her versus listening to "the truth" she was "sharing" with them. Now, she had these opinions obviously because she was a devout JW, and ESPECIALLY at this time of year she was very vocal. Good god, it was pretty much 6 weeks of loathing coming out of her mouth at the end of every year.
Do you find yourself, as an adult, with the same irriations but just for different reasons? I personally, while respecting everyones beliefs, sometimes struggle to keep my patience with those...............particular people whose entire life revolves around say the events described in the gospels.
Does anyone else ever feel like that? Again, I respect everyone's beliefs. But man....sometimes I just wanna yell, "OK! ENOUGH...really. We GET it."
Part of me laughs because in a way it's pretty ironic. And part of me just wants to shake my head hard enough so it will fall off
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To tell my parents or not to tell my parents...unfortunately that is a question
by feenx ini could use some perspective on something i'm struggling with.
first off, a little background info.
i am an only child and my parents, in addition to quite difficult circumstances we've all experienced, both personally and as a family while i was growing up, remain devout.
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Thank you all SO much for your kind words of support and perspective! Right now I am leaning towards sending an announcement of some sort, with a photo of my fiance and myself and leave the ball in their court for any further contact. I don't wish for my happiness to be compromised by letting myself get sucked into their thinking. As a friend of mine put it last night, the only approval one needs in life is from those who you choose to surround yourself with. And while I do have a lot of strong emotions surrounding the past, I do want to look to the future. But bottom line, the wedding will be my special day, regardless of their presence and/or support. So, it's time to celebrate!! They can either choose to be a part of it, or choose not to, but either way it will be fantastic for me
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To tell my parents or not to tell my parents...unfortunately that is a question
by feenx ini could use some perspective on something i'm struggling with.
first off, a little background info.
i am an only child and my parents, in addition to quite difficult circumstances we've all experienced, both personally and as a family while i was growing up, remain devout.
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feenx
hmm....for some reason the rest of my post got cut off. Anyways, I was asking the forum for some perspective. As a parent, what would you want? Anyone out there who has been a similar situation? Am I making too much out of this? Too little? I'm tired of feeling like utter crap when it comes to my parents and I want to find a good place to be in mentally and emotionally with it all, especially approaching a brand new part of my life...
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To tell my parents or not to tell my parents...unfortunately that is a question
by feenx ini could use some perspective on something i'm struggling with.
first off, a little background info.
i am an only child and my parents, in addition to quite difficult circumstances we've all experienced, both personally and as a family while i was growing up, remain devout.
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feenx
I could use some perspective on something I'm struggling with. First off, a little background info. I am an only child and my parents, in addition to quite difficult circumstances we've all experienced, both personally and as a family while I was growing up, remain devout. My father is an elder and they attend a foreign language congregation. I have been DF'd for 7 years now. In that time I have had quite sporadic contact with my parents, up until about a year and half ago when after a couple of unpleasant confrontations with my mother (by this point I hadn't spoken with my dad in quite a while already) she cut off communication completely, stating that only in an emergency was there to be any contact. Based on some past behavior, such as my father not telling me when my mother had been admitted to the hospital, I have essentially taken that to mean the next time I heard from either of them, or anyone who knows them, would be in the event of a death. This is the mode I have been operating on, in terms of family, since my mother told me this.
The dilemma that I'm facing now is I recently got engaged, and I'm not sure whether or not to tell my parents, and I'm also not sure whether or not I even want to. There's a part of that thinks perhaps this will be a large enough event that they will have some desire to be a part of things, or work on our relationship, or at least be supportive from afar. There's another part of me that is a bit more cynical, and feels that we all know how things work. If they made the point to specifically say no contact, if they've already taken it that far, then there's nothing that will deviate them from that.
I think too whether or not I want them at the wedding, and I honestly can't say. Part of me would love for them to share in that beautiful day. Another part of me doesn't want a very hurtful part of my past present at a ceremony celebrating my future. And especially if they wouldn't be there in support, but more out of morbid curiosity, I don't want them there either.
A friend of mine suggested that perhaps this is a situation where even though I am the son I need to step up and be the bigger person, perhaps reach out, see if they want to meet on nuetral ground, don't even mention anything about the past, and just try and be positive about now and the future and hope they respond, before I completely write them off. Because at least then I could say I tried.
Part of me thinks my friend is right, and part of me is being selfish, and feeling like the child, and is angry and resentful that I have to make the effort at all. They're the ones that scarred the relationship, why should I have to grovel, and with a large event in my life to boot, to get some kind of affection, support or involvement from them?
And in the end, what am I REALLY going to get, if anything, from them? Lets say they did agree to see me, we met, talked, they had some level of interest in my life and my marriage. Am I ever going to have the relationship with them that I want? Or will it be like it was before, only amplified, where I felt like I constantly have to justify my life to them and inevitably always felt like complete sh*t after seeing them?
Once we're married the birth control will stop and sooner than I think I will have a child of my own. Do I want their disproval or potential negativity in my head when I introduce a little person to this world? I don't know.
My fiance last night was very supportive and said it's ok to be selfish, no one would judge me if I didn't contact my parents, and it's ok to not know what I want to do, if anything, right now. There's nothing wrong with that. I know she is right.
I had a hard time with it last night, and woke up this morning feeling terrible. I am living a good and happy life, and yet when it comes to my parents I feel like an utter failure and a complete tool. Sometimes I want to drive to their house, ring the be
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Do you belive in UFO's?
by highdose inas jw's we were meant to say no, but as free thinking people, i wonder what your opionion is?.
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feenx
I COMPLETELY agree with xcellxior! It's always seemed a bit closed minded, even arrogant, to me to think that in all the vastness of the universe it's all about one god and one devil, over a few measly humans and this third rock from the sun. Really?..........really?? C'mon now people.