when ive had doubts about the tower before i left, the elder i spoke to always kept saying that he would have to let the presiding overseer in the cong know about this, even when i said i didnt want anyone else to know.i was wondering what goes on when the po gets to know this and why do they do this does anyone know?
also in the past when i have expressed doubts they always suggest a visit to " encourage me" and then two people turn up usually an elder and presiding overseer.to me this feels like intimidation.and i have told them as such.. also when after the meetings the elders meet together will they discuss things about me amongst themselves?.
JWs are told:
"Satan is the one sowing doubts in your mind. Drown off these doubts. Do not dwell on it. Letting these doubts to grow will eventually leads you away from Jehovah's ONLY organisation and leads you to destruction."
This has rob them of their faculty to think and to reason. They are hiding behind the WT, dare not even to peep outside.
Already 2 years out but only now I begin to regain my abilty to reason and think! Thank you, guys....
jw is banned here.
a few years back, one guy (xjw) informed the police of their meeting place.
it was raided,the bros were fined and a few jailed.
Hi Aleman ,
Thanks for your comment. That is why people are saying he sinned against the HS! Judas betrayed Jesus, he betrayed the bros.
How come he can be reinstated? Some bros are questioning this but no one dared to question the elders who reinstate him.
What about this scenario? Judas' wife and children were held hostage and will be killed unless he told themJesus whereabout . Will he still be sinning against the HS?
insight on the scriptures volume 1,p.787expellingone who was cast out as wicked, cut off entirely, would be considered worthy of death, though the jews might not have the authority to execute such a one.
nevertheless, the form of cutting off they did employ was a very powerful weapon in the jewish community.
jesus foretold that his followers would be expelled from the synagogues.
I am still in the process of undoing the brainwashing and indoctrination by the JWs....belief that the Bible is word of god is declining...but still not 0% yet...
Now on the matter of df'd, they seem to have a scriptural basis for it..."remove the wicked one from amoing you" and on the issue of blood , the scripture "abstain from blood". Were these scriptures quoted out of context? So what is your interpretation of these scriptures?
Please bear with me. I have left for 3 years but have only succeeded in undoing their indoctrination by <20%. Teach me also how to speed up the de-indoctrination process....
jw is banned here.
a few years back, one guy (xjw) informed the police of their meeting place.
it was raided,the bros were fined and a few jailed.
JW is banned here. A few years back, one guy (XJW) informed the police of their meeting place. It was raided,the bros were fined and a few jailed. There were people saying that he has sinned against the spirit. Later he felt regret about it and was now reinstated!
Sin against spirit would be unforgivable. y he is able to be reinstated?
Is it up to the elders to decide whether a person has sinned against spirit?
hello everyone, my story is a unique one i suppose but here it goes.,, ever since i was a little boy whenever i would voice my objections about this religion my parents would tell me im making satan happy and that i'm inviting demons into are house by saying and thinking things like this.
my parents are such religious fanatics that it seems like nothing i do can ever be good enough for them.
to this day they always claim that they come down hard on me like this because "they're trying to protect me".
I GOT IT AT LAST!!!!!
Gopher, Sironi, at last I got my post properly formatted!!!!
Firefox 2.0.0.8 is the culprit. I switched to IE7 OK!
hello everyone, my story is a unique one i suppose but here it goes.,, ever since i was a little boy whenever i would voice my objections about this religion my parents would tell me im making satan happy and that i'm inviting demons into are house by saying and thinking things like this.
my parents are such religious fanatics that it seems like nothing i do can ever be good enough for them.
to this day they always claim that they come down hard on me like this because "they're trying to protect me".
interesting topic....
4mylove :
"My JW friend is a massage therapist. She truly believes that one of her clients is a demon! She says that when she massages her she gets these really bad vibes, and that she just doesn't feel right after. That she actually feels physically ill. (ugh )
She says that after, she goes outside and walks on the grass to try to "ground" herself? Does this make any sense to anyone? She is Special
Shouldn't demons flee from JW?
LOL...grounding thru' grass... Advice her to touch the water pipe. If that works too, it may be due to static charges...
tribal girl..conversing with spirits..please ask them whether they know who is Jehovah.
When I am a witness and my father was in a trance, I hide in my room praying to jeh for the spirits to leave the house but they didn't.
I copy the hebrew tetragram for YHVH and hide it under the incense holder but the spirits still come and go as usual....
an elder overheard a brother talking about me dealing with spiritism and made a warning to the cong.
"look at xxxx, he is now possessed by the demons!
we must put on the complete suit of armour from god....never leave the truth....satan is waiting to devour us.
Who is more pitiable? they or me? Yes, maybe to them the demons are controlling me. But they did not look at themselves. They are being controlled by the WT in every action and every thought 24 hrs per day, 7 days per week! Yes I may be possessed by unknown spirits occassionally, but I still retain the ability to think, to reason when I am not possessed. Do they dare to do what I did? I can read books on spiritism, WT, bibles and anything I like. I can even go to a church or the kingdom hall if I want. I can doubt the intentions of the spirit.Can they doubt the FDS but are also humans? Conclusion : Control by demons is not frightening. Control by the WT is!!!!! note : please do not meddle with spiritism just because of my words. There are good and evil spirits. I have seen many cases of evil spirits causing people hell!
an elder overheard a brother talking about me dealing with spiritism and made a warning to the cong.
"look at xxxx, he is now possessed by the demons!
we must put on the complete suit of armour from god....never leave the truth....satan is waiting to devour us.
An elder overheard a brother talking about me dealing with spiritism and made a warning to the cong. "Look at xxxx, he is now possessed by the demons! We must put on the complete suit of armour from god....never leave the truth....satan is waiting to devour us." Good and effective warning.I am sure those who are thinking of leaving will think thrice before doing so.
i've always noticed that when jw's, my inactive hubby included, notice someone is christian, they hate it.
they roll their eyes, snort, or make snide remarks.
i really pissed me off once when my mom in law told my hubby that if she had known why the older ladies wanted to by some of her plants for, she wouldn't have sold them to them.
Sirona, You see? Still cannot! Type using notepad, copy n paste, still no spacing....
i've always noticed that when jw's, my inactive hubby included, notice someone is christian, they hate it.
they roll their eyes, snort, or make snide remarks.
i really pissed me off once when my mom in law told my hubby that if she had known why the older ladies wanted to by some of her plants for, she wouldn't have sold them to them.
Salivating Dog : You have a very compelling case against them by what i have heard so far. Whether or not I have a case depends on the judge : If he is a JW, I have no case at all. Jehovah's organisation must be the foremost consideration of all their actions. I have jeopardised Jah's people by speaking up for drug addicts and deliquents who have no place in the eyes of their god of love. Verdict : spiritboi guilty! To be killed at armaggedon! SO BE IT! I rather live for only a few more years but with a good conscience than to live in a paradise forever with a guilty one! I am happy with my actions : 1) Non JWs were grateful to me for speaking up 2) The guy who takes a delight in assaulting detainees were later transferred out. No news of what happened to him after that. 3) Non JWs detainees saw the hypocrisy of JWs. They know the bros blamed me for speaking up.
