No, you have not misunderstood me. They were mad at me because no more meetings can be held.Sundays and PH free roaming no more...more hard work...less freedom. They said I have spoilt Jah's arrangement. I should be no part of this world, should think of the consequences of my action, I need not lie and say no assault occurred. I should have just say "No comments", blah...blah...blah... And one idiot even suggest that I may have sinned against the spirit by what I have done. The spirit with the Jws, ensuring their comfort and now I spoilt that arrangement! Spirit with them? I can't remember all the fruits of the spirit..just remember one..LOVE. That is definitely missing from them!!!!!!!
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Rolling eyes
by 4mylove ini've always noticed that when jw's, my inactive hubby included, notice someone is christian, they hate it.
they roll their eyes, snort, or make snide remarks.
i really pissed me off once when my mom in law told my hubby that if she had known why the older ladies wanted to by some of her plants for, she wouldn't have sold them to them.
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Rolling eyes
by 4mylove ini've always noticed that when jw's, my inactive hubby included, notice someone is christian, they hate it.
they roll their eyes, snort, or make snide remarks.
i really pissed me off once when my mom in law told my hubby that if she had known why the older ladies wanted to by some of her plants for, she wouldn't have sold them to them.
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spiritboi
Sorry guys, my post is still in a mess with no line feeds. I have tried ticking only "HTML" box, ticking only "auto cf/lf" box, ticking both boxes and the previous post untick all boxes. But still same. Any1 can help? I using firefox browser & vista home premium.
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Rolling eyes
by 4mylove ini've always noticed that when jw's, my inactive hubby included, notice someone is christian, they hate it.
they roll their eyes, snort, or make snide remarks.
i really pissed me off once when my mom in law told my hubby that if she had known why the older ladies wanted to by some of her plants for, she wouldn't have sold them to them.
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Not only do they judge non-believers. They judge each other! While in prison due to the neutrality issue, my faith was being wear off day by day by the brothers conduct! There was one guy who try to lord it over the brothers. Just because he has spend longer time in prison. Minor issues like washing the plates, weeding the grass, etc...he will want to decide for you yes or no. He does not allow our own conscience to tell us yes or no. There was a big shot from the ministry coming over to pick detainees up for questioning on assault cases in the camp. I was pick up to be questioned. That is the first time a JW was picked up for questioning.I told them about every assault cases I have witnessed. (only non JWs were assaulted. They don't assault JWs. In fact we enjoyed some privileges like free roaming on sundays /PH.) All the detainees selected was questioned for less than 5 mins, but mine last for 40 mins. Whatever unfairness I saw I spoke up. When I came out, all eyes were on me. The holier than thou bro face shows anger. And u know y he angry? Because what I have said may affect the living condition of JWs in the camp. They may be withdrawn some privileges. Two weeks later, JWs were separated. Previously JWs were locked up together(6 per cell). That means no more WT study, no more daily text discussion. But for meals, we still eat together. That is HELL for me. I became a SINNER in their eyes. Only two agreed with what I have done! Two months later, I decided that's it. I compromised and join the army. Till now I still don't think I did anything wrong. I will still do what I did again if time reverses back! The detainees are afraid to speak up, worrying of the consequences. JWs are selfish, they are no part of the world. They care only for themselves. Heard that a few were assaulted to death b4 I was there. Case was covered up as no one dare to testify. They forgotten Paul's words :' don't judge. for you will be judged.'
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Why, why and why
by spiritboi inwonder if i am the youngest around (20)....sorry, young people have many why's...
1) humans die because of adam's sin.why animals die?
were they already dying before adam sin?
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Rosalee, if you would want to answer the questions for Jehovah, please based your answers from the Bible. Not from the book of FDS please. That book changes with time... "1) The animals did die before Adam sinned. Adam saw this .. thus understood when he was told that if he ate that certain fruit .. he would die. Understanding what death was ... he was well aware of the results of his decision. The animals were not pets." So you are saying there is sorrow in paradise? I will be very sad if my pet dog dies. You mean Adam has no feelings for the animals? Don't know who say this, Jesus or John : "Through 1 man sin entered the world and death through sin..." Death only comes into the world after the sin. Then what about this saying of Jesus...forgot the exact words..something like 'not a sparrow fell onto to ground with the father's knowledge.You are worth more than many sparrows". Jah..God of Love...Adam...created in God's image...no feeling when the animals die????? When I was a witness, my pet dog was sick. I was wishing that both my dog and I will be together in paradise, living forever. My dog licking my face every day. But now you say they still need to die...sob..sob..sob! But revelation say "Death & hades will be thrown into the lake of fire!" Or r u saying Adam's paradise, animals die. JW paradise "No more death?" Quoting from the book of ILLOGICAL????
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Why, why and why
by spiritboi inwonder if i am the youngest around (20)....sorry, young people have many why's...
1) humans die because of adam's sin.why animals die?
were they already dying before adam sin?
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hey, why are my post still clumming together with no spacing? I have already check the auto cf box!
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Why, why and why
by spiritboi inwonder if i am the youngest around (20)....sorry, young people have many why's...
1) humans die because of adam's sin.why animals die?
were they already dying before adam sin?
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"the proof that Adam and Eve were created perfect is that Jehovah is perfect and cannot create anything imperfect." This verse can also be found in wierdgod 1:1. Scripture can most probably be found in the book of FDS. Jehovah is rather wierd. He has created something perfect but still see the need to test it! Any engineers here? Will you claim your product perfect before testing it? Any normal guy will only say its product perfect AFTER it pass all tests!!!!! Gopher, thanks for your advice in the PM and also your answers regarding the prophecies in matt 24 and tim 3.
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Why, why and why
by spiritboi inwonder if i am the youngest around (20)....sorry, young people have many why's...
1) humans die because of adam's sin.why animals die?
were they already dying before adam sin?
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Thanks Gopher for your answers. You not only answered by questions but also make me realise why all my post were in a mess. I did not check the auto CR/LF box. From your answers, it seems like you have succeeded in undoing WT's brain-washing.I do not believe that the bible is true completely. But what is your view on the prophecies concerning the last days as recorded in Matt 24 and don't know 1st or 2nd Timothy chapter 3? My girlfriend who is a JW kept on nagging at me concerning the fulfillment of these prophecies. And I always answered "the sun is still very bright. It haven't darkened!"
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Why, why and why
by spiritboi inwonder if i am the youngest around (20)....sorry, young people have many why's...
1) humans die because of adam's sin.why animals die?
were they already dying before adam sin?
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It is not the first time Jehovah tested his creatures. He tested the invisible forces. Many angels failed the test. He tested it with two perfect humans. They failed! He should have taken a step back and examine why so many fail. But he tested and is still testing with imperfect humans. If you were an instructor and there was such a high failure rate among your students (100% for perfect humans), what will you do? Do as Jehovah did? Get more students and test these new students until you get your desired number of students who pass? Or will you sit back, examine your training methods for any flaws or maybe even reconsider the criteria of the test and see if you have set it too high? We don't know how he tested the angels. But we have an account of how he tested the perfect humans. Humans ain't dummies. We are created to be inquisitive. We want to find out the how, why and what. Adam and Eve may have stop at that tree of knowledge of Good and bad everytime they passes that tree. Wondering how the fruits taste? why they cannot eat it? God told them they will die if they eat it. What is death? To satisfy their hunger 4 knowledge, they ate it and billions and billions of people have to die... Jehovah certainly do not understand his creation well. If he created humans thru Jesus, then he did not bother to consult Jesus manual on "How to made man obey you" and just set a test on them with devastating effects!!!!
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I am confused!
by spiritboi ini am from a se asia country.
was not long in the truth.
only 3 years.
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Hi Honesty, I don't think a JW or even a XJW is ready to consult a spirit medium like me. Don't forget what the Bible say about sinning against the spirit.Even me, for the past 2 weeks, the thought that I am sinning against the spirit was and still is haunting me. Furthermore, you have not witness the ritual that took place during the trance. I can bet that you will be frightened just like my girlfriend and claim it is demonic. You can do a search on 'tangki' using the search engines.I am called a 'tangki' here locally. Junction Guy, I scored a "F" as a witness. I brought in 2 friends, both were baptized. Both disassociated due to the military issue. One get reinstated but is now considering disassociation as I am de-witnesssing him. The thing I dreaded most as a witness is house2house...I hate sundays when I am a witness.
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I am confused!
by spiritboi ini am from a se asia country.
was not long in the truth.
only 3 years.
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No, never. When I started studying, I expect my dad to oppose me. I just got some scolding from him. The spirits have told my dad not to interfere, saying I will be back. Even now, my Bible with some WT and non WT christian books are opened on my desk. But they did not disturb me. This is entirely different from accounts recorded in the JW yearbook. Spirits disturbing them when they started studying the Bible... Or maybe as advised by my girl, wait and see. They will begin to be bolder when they have more and more control over me. Maybe I am playing with fire...Or maybe there are good spirits and evil spirits out there after all. And mine are good spirits.