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  Is this venue hard for you?

  by wings in

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  just wondering is any of you have found breaking into the internet discussion board arena difficult.

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  VoidEater

  Like a fish to water.
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  Issue Number 2.... Incorrect Predictions.

  by hotchocolate in

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  okay, just to re-introduce myself, i was raised in the truth, regular pioneered for years, and am a member in good standing with my congregation.

  i have just recently been shocked to realise that i actually have some doubts about the truth.

  it helps for me to focus on one point at a time, and to write down my thoughts in a logical sequence.

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  VoidEater

  Aw, HotChocolate - all the thinking! Welcome to the fresh air where your brain is appreciated!
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  Are Prayers For Real?

  by WTWizard in

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  you hear about prayers all the time in most religions, including jehovah's witlesses.

  and they point to scriptures about how god answered specific prayers as evidence that he is ready to answer your prayers.

  there will be a study article in the february 2008 kool-aid for those who have to attend the boasting session (and a comments you will not hear for those who don't).. now, i am going to analyze what this has to do with your prayers.

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  Hi Frankie:

  BTW, I think you mightily under estimated the the ratio of ignored or "No" answered prayers with a big fat generous 1:2

  I was just trying to be a little generous...!
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  Kate Hudson set to star as JW painter Margaret Keane a JW.

  by whereami in

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  another email going round the jw community.

  there all excited about this saying it's going to be a great witness to others.

  yeah right.. .

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  (Although I'm thinking that the move to Hawaii couldn't have hurt either.)

  LOL!

  I had heard this as a rumor, that she was a witness, though the details were all wierd. Interesting.
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  WHAT TALKS MADE YOU QUESTION DOCTRINE?

  by badboy in

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  any takers?

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  VoidEater

  "If the Earth were tilted just one degree one way or the other we'd all be dead! What a loving creator!"
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  I left after 9 years ...

  by sacolton in

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  i just disassociated myself after nine long years in the wtbts after researching the history of the wtbts and its founders and their lies, false prophecies and mind-control doctrines.

  read my profile for more about that.

  anyway, i'm glad there is a wonderful support group for those who have escaped the grasp of the wtbts and enjoy life again without the constant fear that the wtbts instills at every meeting.

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  VoidEater

  Wecome to the Board, SAC - greetings -VE
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  Samson and the Archers, why not?

  by VM44 in

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  didn't the philistines possess bow and arrows during the time of samson?

  samson was unbeatable in hand to hand combat.

  he wiped out an entire army using only the jawbone of an ass, so why didn't the philistines simply get 20 or more archers, have them surround samson, and then simultaneously let loose a volley of arrows?

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  There were rules of engagement back then just as there is today.

  Well, I'm no expert on ancient rules of engagement (though Lore delightfully points out some problems with this premise), but if there were then we'd also have conventions to prevent the gouging out of eyes of our prisoners, yes?
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  fpr those who want to know what "cut the pickle tickle tickle" is

  by burningbridges in

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  ok, so i had a few people ask what "cut the pickle tickle tickle" is, so here it is and i encourage all of you to do it to all the little ones who you love!!!

  ok, so you take your two index fingers and put them together (like your pointing, only do with both fingers pointing at each other and have them touch in the middle) tell the child to "cut the pickle" and they take their hand and "cut" your two fingers apart.

  when they do, tickle the living heck out of them!!!

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  VoidEater

  Just to be contrary ;-)

  kids just love to be tickled

  Never, nope, not once - I always found it abusive. Invasive, forced upon me. Uncomfortbale, physically and emotionally.

  Your mileage may vary!
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  Are Prayers For Real?

  by WTWizard in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  you hear about prayers all the time in most religions, including jehovah's witlesses.

  and they point to scriptures about how god answered specific prayers as evidence that he is ready to answer your prayers.

  there will be a study article in the february 2008 kool-aid for those who have to attend the boasting session (and a comments you will not hear for those who don't).. now, i am going to analyze what this has to do with your prayers.

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  Journey: It's an interesting field of inquiry, as theory, but there is no technology there to act upon it. The problem with the cat being neither dead nor alive until we observe it leaves out the observations of the cat, which my observations show were probably most concerned with hunger.

  I'm rather open to a lot of things, but at some point some evidence has to be presented that there's something more than randomness goig on. This is usually done with repeatable experiments.

  I think we'll probably get matter-energy-matter transportation at some point, and we've seen some pretty cool "thought activated" switches that start sparking hopes of a cyperpunk future. But as you allude there's hardware involved when acting upon the outer world.

  Your own prayer impacing your own inner world? Yes, I think we see that all the time. Is that evidence of a transcendent being? Not necessarily.
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  Are Prayers For Real?

  by WTWizard in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  you hear about prayers all the time in most religions, including jehovah's witlesses.

  and they point to scriptures about how god answered specific prayers as evidence that he is ready to answer your prayers.

  there will be a study article in the february 2008 kool-aid for those who have to attend the boasting session (and a comments you will not hear for those who don't).. now, i am going to analyze what this has to do with your prayers.

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  VoidEater

  Prayer serves a psychological function - positive affirmation, hope, managed expectations - that translates into physical changes in the body (reduced stress and the like). Prayer seems to have the same positive impact as biofeedback or meditation.

  Somewhat sadly, the "big splash" study of a few years ago that concluded that praying for others led to higher recovery rates has been debunked. I knew a researcher peripherally involved in that study, BTW, who coincidentally died from cancer two years ago. Despite her belief in the intiial study results, her participation in studies in Northern California to replicate the results, and the large group of people praying for her, she did not survive her illness.

  Beyond that, for every person saved by prayer there's another ignored in prayer.

  For every team that God granted victory on the gridiron, court, etc., there is a team He led to defeat.

  If indeed the Lord giveth and taketh away, based on inscrutable and unknown premises, the net effect for pragmatists like me is a null sum equation - it's the same as chaos, it's the same as no effect, it's just random stuff.

  If God is given credit for the good in the world, he must also take the blame for the bad.