Posts by Gimme3steps

72 Virgins, huh ?....Links,..serious reading

by Gimme3steps in

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the rewards, believed in store, for a "martyr".

buried alive, afghan women, under the taliban.

postcards from hell, the new rulers (critical of us, and others, nevertheless, an excellent primer).

Gimme3steps

the rewards, believed in store, for a "martyr"
http://www.smh.com.au/news/0109/13/world2/world8.html

Buried Alive, Afghan Women, Under the Taliban
http://mosaic.echonyc.com/~onissues/su98goodwin.html

Postcards From Hell, The New Rulers (critical of US, and others, nevertheless, an excellent primer)
http://www.ciriello.com/sto/46.01rulers.mai.html

Postcards From Hell, The Bruised Fruits of Islam (Not as inflammatory as the title suggests, excellent reading)
http://www.ciriello.com/sto/46.99bruised.aranea.html

Postcards From Hell, Summer,200 interview with Col. Massood, commander of the Northern Resistance(believed to have died, in the last day, or 2, following a suicide bomber attack)
http://www.ciriello.com/sto/46.0010massudeng.arc.html

Looking for a good place to monitor Russian POV's ?
http://english.pravda.ru/main/2001/09/14/

I think I'll boycott Unocal, myself.

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AMERICA'S REVENGE HAS STARTED!

by nicolaou in

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reports are coming in (bbc) of tracer fire and explosions in kabul, afghanistan.. this is of course wher osama bin laden is holed up - have the fbi/cia managed to successfully pin this atrocity on him already?.

nic'

Gimme3steps

In, and of itself, rooting out terrorist elements, in Afghanistan, will not halt international terrorism, admitted. That's going to require global co-operation, and resolving the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, which motivates the terrorist. However, Bin Laden has been allowed to systematically train and assign, terrorists,..from his location, he has become the West Point Academy, for terror. It's time to shut that academy down.

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AMERICA'S REVENGE HAS STARTED!

by nicolaou in

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reports are coming in (bbc) of tracer fire and explosions in kabul, afghanistan.. this is of course wher osama bin laden is holed up - have the fbi/cia managed to successfully pin this atrocity on him already?.

nic'

Gimme3steps

I wonder, Fodeja, how much you've studied, the plight, of the average Afghan citizen. Or, Afghan politics, and the surrounding neighbors. I advocate a return, of the ousted-by-force, resistance movement. I also advocate, rather than, a scorched earth act,.. to invade, and seal, this country, and exterminate, all known to have associated with Bin Laden, and he himself. The will to remove him, exists, globally. Including, in the majority of the minds, of bordering nations. Make Afghanistan un-fit , for the furtherance of the Taliban's , and the Al Queda organizations, goals. To do that, requires take over, and removal, of these elements, then, a return, of the government, into the hands of the globally recognized , yet exiled , currently, leader. This would be a blessing, for the average, suffering, Afghan citizen. And it's a start, to the task, that lies ahead, removal, of radical, terrorist-supporting, state governments.

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AMERICA'S REVENGE HAS STARTED!

by nicolaou in

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reports are coming in (bbc) of tracer fire and explosions in kabul, afghanistan.. this is of course wher osama bin laden is holed up - have the fbi/cia managed to successfully pin this atrocity on him already?.

nic'

Gimme3steps

First of all, .....remember this.... the Taliban is shakin in their boots....they have been able, thus far, to get away with their..
"sharia".."experiment". You dont approach, the problem, without committing yourself, to givin them, a "attitude adjustment"..strate off the bat, and permanent. The key, is to put troops on the ground, and seal Afghanistan, to hell with cruise missiles,...take over, invade and encounter, and defeat, and seal.It can dam sure be done, when you got a good reson to. You dont nuke nothin, u do it the ol fashioned way, and you own that place, and then......you declare the terms.

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Religious Fanatacism

by drahcir yarrum in

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if there was ever a blatant display of the dangers of religious fanatacism, this is it.

the hi-jackers of the airliners that crashed today no doubt thought they'd immediately be sitting next to allah this-afternoon.

Gimme3steps

At the risk of my seeming elitist, consider this, please, Fodeja,..
America tolerates all religious, peacefull practice, and our armed forces, have not, in the last 30 years, risen against anyone, for their religious, or ethnic,...dis-similarities. Sure, 30 years is a drop in the bucket, compared to 2000, I chose that figure, conservatively,..the point being,....one has to consider,where the human family is, currently, in it's progression, towards civility. Sure, history is replete, with examples, of barbarism, committed, in the name of Christ,.also, in the name of Allah,...but does that mean,....we continue to use those misplaced ideals, to justify our barbarism, so that we can continue ?..America, is past that,...by the most conservative time frame, so is most, of the rest of the world. So it either must be, that Islam is absolutely, the single true path, in which case, no thank ya, personally, i dont believe in "Sharia"..(except, now , I do, on a limited basis,I think it should be literally applied, to the perpetrators)....or...I'm an elitist, looking down upon, what I percieve to be, values that are barbaric, and have no place, in civilized society. Please understand,..I separate, the human, from the ideology,
I blame the ideology, personally, and the actual humans, that sponsored, these acts, today.

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Reason gifted......

by Deacon in

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for those of us who are european, we know first hand the brutality of terrorism.

england endured attacks from the close neigbour northern ireland for a long time, italy france and spain, along with germany endured homegrown versions of the same.. the us finally joins the ranks of the rest of the planet, in having more than a taste of the evilness of brutal sudden invasion of familiar and personal territory, and will have to grow up fast in the realities of the way of the world.. i awoke early this morning to the pictures of death and mayhem, and my mind turned back over the past 20 some years of my experience with the aftermath of violent conflict, be it one sided, sudden and devasting in its effect.

the memory bank started in overtime, recalling the so familiar pattern of emotions, numbness, shock, fear, despair, anger, sadness....and now i watch the same thing hit the shores of america, affecting all the peoples as if they were one.. as a person, once closely involved in the repair of humanity, both physical and mental, my heart grieves for those that have suddenly lost loved ones, for those who will forever be affected by the inflicting of one persons ideas and actions upon others....it is wrong and unloving, and oh so very human...to decide that ones personal message or belief is of greater import than others.. the american authorities will speed up their work to find the perpertrators of this heinous action, and then we will see if the present government is strong enough to keep this country together without inflicting the residents with yet another long drawn out war because of revenge.

Gimme3steps

Deacon....Thank you for putting in words, what so many, can not, includin myself. Nail on the Head, Brother, one of the best posts,(thread Title Post ) i ever read, here, to date, although i have minor differences of thought. Peace, Brother/Sister

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To the fire fighters...............

by WildHorses in

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it was reported on the news that half of the ny fire force lost their lives today due to the tragedy at the wtc.

i will pray for their families.. to all the fire fighter in the us and the world over.

i thank you for your hard work.

Gimme3steps

Absolutely,..Lilacs...these men, and women,..answered a call, of duty, and gave their all....let us never forget em....I know,
Our Creator won't, and hope our country, never does, either. I feel a similar compassion for the sailors, aboard the Kursk, the Kosovoer people,the victims of Pol Pot, Idi Amin, Rwandan minorities, and yes, even, America, in Vietnam...the list could go on, but the point is clear,..Honor, and remember, those who have fallen, unjustly.,at this time, it is very appropriate, to express feelings of sincere appreciation, and admiration, to all those who came to the aid, of the victims, and especially those, who paid the ultimate price.

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AMERICA'S REVENGE HAS STARTED!

by nicolaou in

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friends

reports are coming in (bbc) of tracer fire and explosions in kabul, afghanistan.. this is of course wher osama bin laden is holed up - have the fbi/cia managed to successfully pin this atrocity on him already?.

nic'

Gimme3steps

Five Storys, that's some good weed you smokin ,which Area51 book,would you recommend I buy ?

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Explosion in Dayton, Ohio

by larc in

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twenty minutes ago, there were two large explosions in dayton, ohio.

they were strong enough to vibrate my house.

the local news reported that a plane struck the veterans administration building about 5 miles from my house.

Gimme3steps

Well, is this report really true ? Anyone know anymore ?

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Religious Fanatacism

by drahcir yarrum in

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if there was ever a blatant display of the dangers of religious fanatacism, this is it.

the hi-jackers of the airliners that crashed today no doubt thought they'd immediately be sitting next to allah this-afternoon.

Gimme3steps

(quote)

"I think everyone needs to wait until it is confirmed who is responsible before jumping to conclusions. Remember the OKC bombing everyone was really sure it was a foreign attack and as we all know, it was not. "

Very true, and a good idea, to remember. It would be terrible, to presume wrongly, while the guilty party(s) walked, whoever they are.