i swear more new light is available here than in the corridors of the wts.
in leviticus the israelites are instructed not to eat things strangled or already dead, but if they do, they are only unclean, not stoned to death.
so why has it been upgraded by the wts to be this unforgivable sin?
By the way, regarding 1 Sam 14:
Those men were in no life-threatening danger. They certainly had eaten in the morning, and were not starving to death.
More to the point, they were just supposed to take the time to bleed the animals, and therefore wait a few more minutes before eating the meat. Was has it to do with a life-or-death issue?
They were blamed for their negligence, that's all.
i swear more new light is available here than in the corridors of the wts.
in leviticus the israelites are instructed not to eat things strangled or already dead, but if they do, they are only unclean, not stoned to death.
so why has it been upgraded by the wts to be this unforgivable sin?
Hi, VM73
Just read this sentence:
Further, if guilt resulted only if blood was from a creature killed by man, then Deuteronomy 14:21 and Exodus 22:31 would not have forbidden Israelites to eat unbled flesh from animals that were not killed by men.
Actually, if "guilt resulted only if blood was from a creature killed by man," then Deuteronomy 14:21 and Exodus 22:31 would have forbidden Israelites to eat that flesh anyway, because of the ceremonial impurity of corpses.
At the core of the article is a complete confusion between the prohibition against blood and the ceremonial impurity of corpses. The quoted passages of Deuteronomy 14:21, Leviticus 17:15, Exodus 22:31 and Leviticus 5:2 are all about the impurity of corpses.
How about this:
Now let us carefully examine Leviticus 17:10. It says that no “man of the house of Israel or some alien resident” should eat blood. Was that because the animal had been killed by a human and so the blood had to be returned to God? To claim such is to read into the verse more than it says.
The next verse, Leviticus 17:11 says that the blood has been put on the altar. Is it "reading into the verse more than it says" to assume that Israelites couldn't pour blood from a live animal on the altar?
I find it incredible that the author can tell others that they read into verses more that they say, and fail to see how much he does it himself, when reading the blood prohibition into verses that merely declare corpses unclean.
Look at the general tone of the article, too. Scornful, aggressive. The way it calls to obedience. I met its author after a lot of insistence, and spent 30 minutes respectfuly directing his attention to the problem. He was just as nervous as when writing his article, and kept looking at his watch. He then warned me against falling into apostasy.
That's at least something he was right about.
and petrified... i just recently became a pioneer and always had nagging questions in the back of my mind.
so, i decided that when i have get a study i would research all the questions as i go along so as to prove everything in the truth... i got 4 studies in about 2 months.
all was fine, until i reached i think chapter 6 in the bible teach book about the resurrection.
Hi, Cognac
I lived a somewhat similar situation, and feel very happy to have had that interesting experience.
My best wishes for your new life.
i swear more new light is available here than in the corridors of the wts.
in leviticus the israelites are instructed not to eat things strangled or already dead, but if they do, they are only unclean, not stoned to death.
so why has it been upgraded by the wts to be this unforgivable sin?
Hi, Jefferywhat
The Governing Body and Writing department are aware of this problem, Deuteronomy 14:21, etc. A "Question for Readers" in a 1983 Watchtower addressed the question, but contained a gross mistake.
They don't care.
You may have a look at http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/16/115238/1.ashx regarding a letter to the WTS on the topic. Its author ended up before a judicial commitee, of course.
wow... didn't take her long.. the ex-wifey is getting remarried at the end of the month.
we were officially seperated on march 27th of '06... she didn't waste any time, although he's a j-dub... he's a good guy and i wish her the best... celebrate with me folks!
smile.... .
Your story is fascinating, Bill. Thanks for sharing.
Best wishes for your new life.
has anyone seen the picture...supposedly the watchtower tract society is pictured in the corner.
can't get it come over...got it in an email..
Isn't that the building where the dog was chasing a deer?
Well, at least, the tenants looked the same.
i was congregation secretary.
all of us were against appointing a particular ms as elder despite the fact he had regular pioneered for 15 years.
the reason was he told crude jokes and all in the congregation knew it.
Appointments are for "spiritually mature brothers", which means organization men
according to the bible, the bible contains "leaven".. matthew 13:33 another parable spake he unto them; the kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven, which a woman took, and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened.. luke 13:21 it is like leaven, which a woman took and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened.. .
according to the bible, "leaven" is to be avoided.. matthew 16:6 then jesus said unto them, take heed and beware of the leaven of the pharisees and of the sadducees.. mark 8:15 and he charged them, saying, take heed, beware of the leaven of the pharisees, and of the leaven of herod.. .
according to the bible, "leaven" can be avoided by sorting the bible.. deuteronomy 19:15 one witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.. matthew 18:16 but if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.. 2 corinthians 13:1 this is the third time i am coming to you.
By the way, isn't Paul's misogyny a beautiful example of leaven?
Now, I'm sure there must be a way to demonstrate that Paul was in reality every woman's best friend, to salvage the "God's representative" trick.
according to the bible, the bible contains "leaven".. matthew 13:33 another parable spake he unto them; the kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven, which a woman took, and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened.. luke 13:21 it is like leaven, which a woman took and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened.. .
according to the bible, "leaven" is to be avoided.. matthew 16:6 then jesus said unto them, take heed and beware of the leaven of the pharisees and of the sadducees.. mark 8:15 and he charged them, saying, take heed, beware of the leaven of the pharisees, and of the leaven of herod.. .
according to the bible, "leaven" can be avoided by sorting the bible.. deuteronomy 19:15 one witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.. matthew 18:16 but if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.. 2 corinthians 13:1 this is the third time i am coming to you.
Ineresting, Joseph. You show me how a man's word became God's.
Yet, I insist that I really do appreciate Paul's letters -to the exception of his misogyny. He himself gave no man excessive reverence, even to Peter.
How much this question matters to you is interesting, too.
according to the bible, the bible contains "leaven".. matthew 13:33 another parable spake he unto them; the kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven, which a woman took, and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened.. luke 13:21 it is like leaven, which a woman took and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened.. .
according to the bible, "leaven" is to be avoided.. matthew 16:6 then jesus said unto them, take heed and beware of the leaven of the pharisees and of the sadducees.. mark 8:15 and he charged them, saying, take heed, beware of the leaven of the pharisees, and of the leaven of herod.. .
according to the bible, "leaven" can be avoided by sorting the bible.. deuteronomy 19:15 one witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.. matthew 18:16 but if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.. 2 corinthians 13:1 this is the third time i am coming to you.
Thank you, Joseph, but where does Paul claim to be writing God's own word?
However, the fact is that I highly value what he wrote as an apostle. Galatians 1:8 for example.
